Comments on: Oil from the Persian Gulf http://cstpr.colorado.edu/prometheus/?p=4531 Wed, 29 Jul 2009 22:36:51 -0600 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.9.1 hourly 1 By: TokyoTom http://cstpr.colorado.edu/prometheus/?p=4531&cpage=1#comment-10860 TokyoTom Sun, 31 Aug 2008 08:25:42 +0000 http://sciencepolicy.colorado.edu/prometheus/?p=4531#comment-10860 "Energy security" is chiefly a slogan bandied about by politicians to make us feel that are defending us when they shift billions an trillions to defense and to "alternative" energy/"clean" coal, etc. - when what is really happening is that we are being both manipulated and fleeced for the benefit of special interest insiders. There are no monopoly sellers, and oil is worthless to even the corruptest oil regime unless it`s sold. “Energy security” is chiefly a slogan bandied about by politicians to make us feel that are defending us when they shift billions an trillions to defense and to “alternative” energy/”clean” coal, etc. – when what is really happening is that we are being both manipulated and fleeced for the benefit of special interest insiders.

There are no monopoly sellers, and oil is worthless to even the corruptest oil regime unless it`s sold.

]]> By: Raven http://cstpr.colorado.edu/prometheus/?p=4531&cpage=1#comment-10855 Raven Sat, 30 Aug 2008 00:24:59 +0000 http://sciencepolicy.colorado.edu/prometheus/?p=4531#comment-10855 Ironically, a cap and trade or any other anti-CO2 policy will likely increase how much the US imports from unreliable partners because they have the "cleanest" oil. Oil from reliable partners like Canada tends to produce a lot of GHGs during production. I am curious how the democrats will react once the contradiction inherent in their rhetoric becomes impossible to ignore. Ironically, a cap and trade or any other anti-CO2 policy will likely increase how much the US imports from unreliable partners because they have the “cleanest” oil. Oil from reliable partners like Canada tends to produce a lot of GHGs during production. I am curious how the democrats will react once the contradiction inherent in their rhetoric becomes impossible to ignore.

]]> By: srgoulet http://cstpr.colorado.edu/prometheus/?p=4531&cpage=1#comment-10854 srgoulet Fri, 29 Aug 2008 18:39:30 +0000 http://sciencepolicy.colorado.edu/prometheus/?p=4531#comment-10854 And here is the incredible conclusion from the WSJ blog posting: "Sen. Obama’s call for oil independence sounded strong in the speech. But the reality is it could just end up shifting America’s oil addiction from one supplier to another." File that under "Blatantly obvious things a wing nut would point out to try and make Obama look bad". I think most of us endowed with common sense could figure out that we'll have to get oil elsewhere when we end our dependence on the middle east. A little more in depth analysis might have pointed out that the global oil market is very sensitive to supply and demand, and the price of of our oil would still be effected by a Middle East embargo, even if when we stop buying it from them. Additionally, the fact that we are trading with the Middle East in such vast quantities (of oil and money) helps insure that we are at least partners in business. Those partnerships keep us very motivated to cooperate with one another, and with each others governments. Break those relationships and you risk major political problems. And here is the incredible conclusion from the WSJ blog posting: “Sen. Obama’s call for oil independence sounded strong in the speech. But the reality is it could just end up shifting America’s oil addiction from one supplier to another.”

File that under “Blatantly obvious things a wing nut would point out to try and make Obama look bad”. I think most of us endowed with common sense could figure out that we’ll have to get oil elsewhere when we end our dependence on the middle east.

A little more in depth analysis might have pointed out that the global oil market is very sensitive to supply and demand, and the price of of our oil would still be effected by a Middle East embargo, even if when we stop buying it from them.

Additionally, the fact that we are trading with the Middle East in such vast quantities (of oil and money) helps insure that we are at least partners in business. Those partnerships keep us very motivated to cooperate with one another, and with each others governments. Break those relationships and you risk major political problems.

]]> By: James Rufo Hill http://cstpr.colorado.edu/prometheus/?p=4531&cpage=1#comment-10851 James Rufo Hill Fri, 29 Aug 2008 16:33:07 +0000 http://sciencepolicy.colorado.edu/prometheus/?p=4531#comment-10851 Looking forward to further analysis. While total imports are important, it might also be nice to see the data explained by company and profits. In other words, from which regions are U.S. firms profiting the most? Looking forward to further analysis. While total imports are important, it might also be nice to see the data explained by company and profits. In other words, from which regions are U.S. firms profiting the most?

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