Comments on: NYT Issues a Correction http://cstpr.colorado.edu/prometheus/?p=5179 Wed, 29 Jul 2009 22:36:51 -0600 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.9.1 hourly 1 By: stan http://cstpr.colorado.edu/prometheus/?p=5179&cpage=1#comment-13728 stan Mon, 04 May 2009 16:00:17 +0000 http://sciencepolicy.colorado.edu/prometheus/?p=5179#comment-13728 Has Revkin run a big story about Gore's financial bonanza from pushing AGW? Has he run a story on the fraud investigation of Wang? The fraud involves data which was part of a key "study" by Jones used to support the IPCC's assertion that the UHI effect is insignificant. When he exposes Gore and highlights the scientific fraud we'll give him a hand. Has Revkin run a big story about Gore’s financial bonanza from pushing AGW? Has he run a story on the fraud investigation of Wang? The fraud involves data which was part of a key “study” by Jones used to support the IPCC’s assertion that the UHI effect is insignificant.

When he exposes Gore and highlights the scientific fraud we’ll give him a hand.

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By: Rick http://cstpr.colorado.edu/prometheus/?p=5179&cpage=1#comment-13721 Rick Mon, 04 May 2009 04:31:16 +0000 http://sciencepolicy.colorado.edu/prometheus/?p=5179#comment-13721 I don't think Revkin deserves kudos for this correction. First he writes a phoney baloney "news" piece, then, when "a reader" calls his attention to a document that exists in the public domain, he issues a correction, but can't resist adding a weasel clause to the end of it Revikin's premise was that the public and internal statements were at odds. But even a quick glance at the source documents shows that there were two different, but related ideas in question. The undeniable idea was the theory of the Green House Effect and the potential for human caused emissions to affect climate. The idea that was "not well understood" was about the attribution of actual climate change to human activities. Even the most recent IPCC report doesn't claim that man made global warming is "undeniable. Now that he's come under fire, Revkin retreats from,"(GCC)led an aggressive lobbying and public relations campaign against the idea that emissions of heat-trapping gases could lead to global warming", to, "the coalition continued to question the scientific evidence that greenhouse gas emissions could heat the planet enough to justify sharp cuts in emissions". I will, however, give him credit for linking to the source documents. I don’t think Revkin deserves kudos for this correction. First he writes a phoney baloney “news” piece, then, when “a reader” calls his attention to a document that exists in the public domain, he issues a correction, but can’t resist adding a weasel clause to the end of it

Revikin’s premise was that the public and internal statements were at odds. But even a quick glance at the source documents shows that there were two different, but related ideas in question. The undeniable idea was the theory of the Green House Effect and the potential for human caused emissions to affect climate. The idea that was “not well understood” was about the attribution of actual climate change to human activities. Even the most recent IPCC report doesn’t claim that man made global warming is “undeniable.

Now that he’s come under fire, Revkin retreats from,”(GCC)led an aggressive lobbying and public relations campaign against the idea that emissions of heat-trapping gases could lead to global warming”, to, “the coalition continued to question the scientific evidence that greenhouse gas emissions could heat the planet enough to justify sharp cuts in emissions”.

I will, however, give him credit for linking to the source documents.

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By: nvw http://cstpr.colorado.edu/prometheus/?p=5179&cpage=1#comment-13716 nvw Sun, 03 May 2009 13:48:22 +0000 http://sciencepolicy.colorado.edu/prometheus/?p=5179#comment-13716 I agree more with Jon Frum (post #1). While some on the Dotearth pages think Revkin is to be applauded for an unfiltered posting policy and prompt citing of the correction, it is still a correction buried in the paper. The original article was a front page full publicity piece cited repeatedly by Al Gore during his statement to Congress the next day. At Dotearth I see a pattern of posts that is all to familiar with other outlets on the MSM – wherein they tend to accept without journalistic impartiality stories that support AGW. They either buy in or participate in the policy manipulation that is occurring. I am troubled by the coordination of media that is orchestrated with the release of science papers as if this was a Hollywood summer film. Instead of (insert-the-name-of-your-favorite-filmstar here) going on Letterman, Leno, Good Morning America in a frenzied attempt for attention the week of the box office release we now have spots on NPR “Science Friday” and a favorable Dotearth blog posting when your paper gets the front page of Nature. [As the great latenight comedian Craig Ferguson would say – “remind you of anyone you know?”]. In this milieu we have to place Revkin and in order to receive the mantle of journalist I would like to see him question more and be less of a publicity stool. Hopefully he takes this as a learning experience beyond the release of a correction with a renewed examination of all sides of the debate. I agree more with Jon Frum (post #1). While some on the Dotearth pages think Revkin is to be applauded for an unfiltered posting policy and prompt citing of the correction, it is still a correction buried in the paper. The original article was a front page full publicity piece cited repeatedly by Al Gore during his statement to Congress the next day.

At Dotearth I see a pattern of posts that is all to familiar with other outlets on the MSM – wherein they tend to accept without journalistic impartiality stories that support AGW. They either buy in or participate in the policy manipulation that is occurring. I am troubled by the coordination of media that is orchestrated with the release of science papers as if this was a Hollywood summer film. Instead of (insert-the-name-of-your-favorite-filmstar here) going on Letterman, Leno, Good Morning America in a frenzied attempt for attention the week of the box office release we now have spots on NPR “Science Friday” and a favorable Dotearth blog posting when your paper gets the front page of Nature. [As the great latenight comedian Craig Ferguson would say – “remind you of anyone you know?”]. In this milieu we have to place Revkin and in order to receive the mantle of journalist I would like to see him question more and be less of a publicity stool. Hopefully he takes this as a learning experience beyond the release of a correction with a renewed examination of all sides of the debate.

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By: Boston Globe wins reprieve | ASEAN Society http://cstpr.colorado.edu/prometheus/?p=5179&cpage=1#comment-13713 Boston Globe wins reprieve | ASEAN Society Sun, 03 May 2009 08:24:07 +0000 http://sciencepolicy.colorado.edu/prometheus/?p=5179#comment-13713 [...] NYT Issues a Correction [...] [...] NYT Issues a Correction [...]

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By: Jon Frum http://cstpr.colorado.edu/prometheus/?p=5179&cpage=1#comment-13707 Jon Frum Sat, 02 May 2009 20:57:29 +0000 http://sciencepolicy.colorado.edu/prometheus/?p=5179#comment-13707 I don't know whether kudos are deserved when it was a reader who gave them the information. I think that correcting your own mistakes should be expected rather than praised. A quick look at the NYT web site located the linked correction to the main page, behind the link "Corrections." Does that do justice to the failure of the original front page headline? Granted that this grudging 'least possible admission' is standard operating procedure for newspapers, but I hardly think that kudos are deserved in this case. I don’t know whether kudos are deserved when it was a reader who gave them the information. I think that correcting your own mistakes should be expected rather than praised. A quick look at the NYT web site located the linked correction to the main page, behind the link “Corrections.” Does that do justice to the failure of the original front page headline? Granted that this grudging ‘least possible admission’ is standard operating procedure for newspapers, but I hardly think that kudos are deserved in this case.

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