Comments on: Expertise in Biodiversity Governance http://cstpr.colorado.edu/prometheus/?p=3964 Wed, 29 Jul 2009 22:36:51 -0600 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.9.1 hourly 1 By: Kalense http://cstpr.colorado.edu/prometheus/?p=3964&cpage=1#comment-6243 Kalense Tue, 07 Nov 2006 14:20:13 +0000 http://sciencepolicy.colorado.edu/prometheusreborn/?p=3964#comment-6243 Have you thought about this, biopolitical? Do you really mean that you don't want tradition or religion to shape or influence policies that are going to affect you? What would you make of spiritual beliefs in the Casamance, then, which lead to the protection of sacred forests? Or traditional farming practices that maintain a wide specrum of maize in Mexico? Have you thought about this, biopolitical? Do you really mean that you don’t want tradition or religion to shape or influence policies that are going to affect you? What would you make of spiritual beliefs in the Casamance, then, which lead to the protection of sacred forests? Or traditional farming practices that maintain a wide specrum of maize in Mexico?

]]> By: Biopolitical http://cstpr.colorado.edu/prometheus/?p=3964&cpage=1#comment-6242 Biopolitical Mon, 16 Oct 2006 09:19:05 +0000 http://sciencepolicy.colorado.edu/prometheusreborn/?p=3964#comment-6242 Jim, Yes I was being sarcastic :) Science is the only more-or-less reliable "form of knowledge." I don't want other "forms of knowledge" - recourse to authority, tradition, religion, the paranormal, and "all" others - to shape or influence policies that are going to affect me. So, if we are going to have public policy, I prefer science, and not "all" the other forms of knowledge, to have a role in it. But... There are different scientific opinions on the issue of biodiversity loss and on the potential political actions to tackle it. Unfortunately, an "independent and effective international knowledge-policy interface for biodiversity governance" will be used to advance a single view. I would rather have the public know about the different opinions and not about an artificial consensus. More specifically, the "interface" will promote the idea that there is a biodiversity crisis that threatens human well-being on a global scale and that requires a globally coordinated effort of mitigation. That will be "the consensus." Hundreds of scientists from a hundred countries will contribute to the effort of reaching that consensus. That will be "the" science. Dissenters will become "the biodiversity crisis deniers." It will be official. Jim,

Yes I was being sarcastic :) Science is the only more-or-less reliable “form of knowledge.” I don’t want other “forms of knowledge” – recourse to authority, tradition, religion, the paranormal, and “all” others – to shape or influence policies that are going to affect me. So, if we are going to have public policy, I prefer science, and not “all” the other forms of knowledge, to have a role in it. But…

There are different scientific opinions on the issue of biodiversity loss and on the potential political actions to tackle it. Unfortunately, an “independent and effective international knowledge-policy interface for biodiversity governance” will be used to advance a single view. I would rather have the public know about the different opinions and not about an artificial consensus.

More specifically, the “interface” will promote the idea that there is a biodiversity crisis that threatens human well-being on a global scale and that requires a globally coordinated effort of mitigation. That will be “the consensus.” Hundreds of scientists from a hundred countries will contribute to the effort of reaching that consensus. That will be “the” science. Dissenters will become “the biodiversity crisis deniers.” It will be official.

]]> By: Jim Clarke http://cstpr.colorado.edu/prometheus/?p=3964&cpage=1#comment-6241 Jim Clarke Fri, 13 Oct 2006 22:58:24 +0000 http://sciencepolicy.colorado.edu/prometheusreborn/?p=3964#comment-6241 Biopolitical, Normally, I would not join in a discussion on this topic as it is not one in which I am well versed, however, your comment was so provocative I had to ask some questions. If we should exclude scientific knowledge from the biodiversity decision making process, what kind of knowledge should be included? How will this knowledge NOT be abused to advance a political agenda? Is your statement serious, or are you being sarcastic? Biopolitical,

Normally, I would not join in a discussion on this topic as it is not one in which I am well versed, however, your comment was so provocative I had to ask some questions. If we should exclude scientific knowledge from the biodiversity decision making process, what kind of knowledge should be included? How will this knowledge NOT be abused to advance a political agenda? Is your statement serious, or are you being sarcastic?

]]> By: Biopolitical http://cstpr.colorado.edu/prometheus/?p=3964&cpage=1#comment-6240 Biopolitical Thu, 12 Oct 2006 23:33:24 +0000 http://sciencepolicy.colorado.edu/prometheusreborn/?p=3964#comment-6240 Thank you Roger. No, it doesn't make sense to me. What knowledge would I recommend excluding? Science. It will be abused to advance a political agenda, and I don't like that. Thank you Roger. No, it doesn’t make sense to me.

What knowledge would I recommend excluding? Science. It will be abused to advance a political agenda, and I don’t like that.

]]> By: Roger Pielke, Jr. http://cstpr.colorado.edu/prometheus/?p=3964&cpage=1#comment-6239 Roger Pielke, Jr. Thu, 12 Oct 2006 21:43:18 +0000 http://sciencepolicy.colorado.edu/prometheusreborn/?p=3964#comment-6239 Marcelino- Thanks. What knowledge would you recommend excluding? ;-) I think the sense of our statemnt is that _potentially_ all knowledge is relevant, and we didn't want to or feel the need to say more than that. Does that make sense? Thanks! Marcelino-

Thanks. What knowledge would you recommend excluding? ;-) I think the sense of our statemnt is that _potentially_ all knowledge is relevant, and we didn’t want to or feel the need to say more than that. Does that make sense? Thanks!

]]> By: Biopolitical http://cstpr.colorado.edu/prometheus/?p=3964&cpage=1#comment-6238 Biopolitical Thu, 12 Oct 2006 20:11:40 +0000 http://sciencepolicy.colorado.edu/prometheusreborn/?p=3964#comment-6238 "Dialogue and exchange among holders of diverse knowledge and knowledge systems (i.e., all forms of traditional and modern knowledge and science)" All forms? All? "We use the phrase “knowledge-policy interface” to acknowledge that information and expertise relevant to policy must include all forms of knowledge." All? “Dialogue and exchange among holders of diverse knowledge and knowledge systems (i.e., all forms of traditional and modern knowledge and science)” All forms? All?

“We use the phrase “knowledge-policy interface” to acknowledge that information and expertise relevant to policy must include all forms of knowledge.” All?

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