Comments on: Please Tell Me What in the World Joe Romm is Complaining About? http://cstpr.colorado.edu/prometheus/?p=4390 Wed, 29 Jul 2009 22:36:51 -0600 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.9.1 hourly 1 By: Roger Pielke, Jr. http://cstpr.colorado.edu/prometheus/?p=4390&cpage=1#comment-9689 Roger Pielke, Jr. Mon, 21 Apr 2008 13:05:17 +0000 http://sciencepolicy.colorado.edu/prometheusreborn/?p=4390#comment-9689 Joe- Your issue then is with the media and not me. If you want to know what I think then, yes, you have to actually see what I've written and said. Here is an example of your latest slander, which I posted up on your blog, to which you have not answered: "Enough of your attacks and misrepresentations, that is what. This statement in this post is a completely misleading fabrication on your part: "MSM journalists who talk to me for a few minutes don’t get my position completely backwards over and over again." Please cite just one example of a MSM journalist who has gotten my position on anything "completely backwards over and over again." Either you can cite such a case involving me or you made this allegation up to smear me. Krstof quoted me accurately, despite your claim to the contrary, as do 99% of journalists." I followed this up with: "Please post away as to your policy arguments, no worries there. I do expect that you will do more than simply ignore my comments about your continued misrepresentations. I wrote above, "Either you can cite such a case involving me or you made this allegation up to smear me. Krstof quoted me accurately, despite your claim to the contrary, as do 99% of journalists." You can answer this, apologize, or ignore it. Which is it Joe?" Joe, your comment that "I didn't call you names. Where did I do that?" Are you serious?! I'm the "delayer 1000 du jour" about 100 times over. Joe-

Your issue then is with the media and not me. If you want to know what I think then, yes, you have to actually see what I’ve written and said.

Here is an example of your latest slander, which I posted up on your blog, to which you have not answered:

“Enough of your attacks and misrepresentations, that is what. This statement in this post is a completely misleading fabrication on your part: “MSM journalists who talk to me for a few minutes don’t get my position completely backwards over and over again.” Please cite just one example of a MSM journalist who has gotten my position on anything “completely backwards over and over again.” Either you can cite such a case involving me or you made this allegation up to smear me. Krstof quoted me accurately, despite your claim to the contrary, as do 99% of journalists.”

I followed this up with:

“Please post away as to your policy arguments, no worries there. I do expect that you will do more than simply ignore my comments about your continued misrepresentations.

I wrote above, “Either you can cite such a case involving me or you made this allegation up to smear me. Krstof quoted me accurately, despite your claim to the contrary, as do 99% of journalists.” You can answer this, apologize, or ignore it. Which is it Joe?”

Joe, your comment that “I didn’t call you names. Where did I do that?”

Are you serious?! I’m the “delayer 1000 du jour” about 100 times over.

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By: jromm http://cstpr.colorado.edu/prometheus/?p=4390&cpage=1#comment-9688 jromm Mon, 21 Apr 2008 11:37:05 +0000 http://sciencepolicy.colorado.edu/prometheusreborn/?p=4390#comment-9688 Roger -- You missed the entire point of my post. The points. First, it doesn't matter if you can dig up writing of yours from the past (read by hundreds of people) that seems to agree with things I've written. What matters is that when the media writes about their interviews with you (for millions of people) they seem to conclude mistaken things -- in this case the need for a $20-billion-a-year federal program to "develop new energy technologies." Second, I didn't call you names. Where did I do that? You keep calling me "hysterical" however. Third, I could not disagree more with the statement -- that you stand by on my blog -- “We’ve gotten this hopelessly wrong,” said Roger Pielke Jr. of the University of Colorado at Boulder, one of the authors of the Nature article. “If we approach this from reducing emissions we get nowhere. Driving Priuses may be good, but it’s not going to accomplish what we need.” My complaint about that statement was not content-free. I believe it is a misleading statement, perhaps dangerously so. Roger — You missed the entire point of my post. The points. First, it doesn’t matter if you can dig up writing of yours from the past (read by hundreds of people) that seems to agree with things I’ve written. What matters is that when the media writes about their interviews with you (for millions of people) they seem to conclude mistaken things — in this case the need for a $20-billion-a-year federal program to “develop new energy technologies.”

Second, I didn’t call you names. Where did I do that? You keep calling me “hysterical” however.

Third, I could not disagree more with the statement — that you stand by on my blog –
“We’ve gotten this hopelessly wrong,” said Roger Pielke Jr. of the University of Colorado at Boulder, one of the authors of the Nature article. “If we approach this from reducing emissions we get nowhere. Driving Priuses may be good, but it’s not going to accomplish what we need.”

My complaint about that statement was not content-free. I believe it is a misleading statement, perhaps dangerously so.

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By: jromm http://cstpr.colorado.edu/prometheus/?p=4390&cpage=1#comment-9687 jromm Mon, 21 Apr 2008 11:36:29 +0000 http://sciencepolicy.colorado.edu/prometheusreborn/?p=4390#comment-9687 Roger -- You missed the entire point of my post. The points. First, it doesn't matter if you can dig up writing of yours from the past (read by hundreds of people) that seems to agree with things I've written. What matters is that when the media writes about their interviews with you (for millions of people) they seem to conclude mistaken things -- in this case the need for a $20-billion-a-year federal program to "develop new energy technologies." Second, I didn't call you names. Where did I do that? You keep calling me "hysterical" however. Third, I could not disagree more with the statement -- that you stand by on my blog -- “We’ve gotten this hopelessly wrong,” said Roger Pielke Jr. of the University of Colorado at Boulder, one of the authors of the Nature article. “If we approach this from reducing emissions we get nowhere. Driving Priuses may be good, but it’s not going to accomplish what we need.” My complaint about that statement was not content-free. I believe it is a misleading statement, perhaps dangerously so. Roger — You missed the entire point of my post. The points. First, it doesn’t matter if you can dig up writing of yours from the past (read by hundreds of people) that seems to agree with things I’ve written. What matters is that when the media writes about their interviews with you (for millions of people) they seem to conclude mistaken things — in this case the need for a $20-billion-a-year federal program to “develop new energy technologies.”

Second, I didn’t call you names. Where did I do that? You keep calling me “hysterical” however.

Third, I could not disagree more with the statement — that you stand by on my blog –
“We’ve gotten this hopelessly wrong,” said Roger Pielke Jr. of the University of Colorado at Boulder, one of the authors of the Nature article. “If we approach this from reducing emissions we get nowhere. Driving Priuses may be good, but it’s not going to accomplish what we need.”

My complaint about that statement was not content-free. I believe it is a misleading statement, perhaps dangerously so.

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