Comments on: Policy Research? We Don’t Need No Stinkin’ Policy Research http://cstpr.colorado.edu/prometheus/?p=4202 Wed, 29 Jul 2009 22:36:51 -0600 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.9.1 hourly 1 By: JamesG http://cstpr.colorado.edu/prometheus/?p=4202&cpage=1#comment-9019 JamesG Wed, 09 May 2007 11:15:21 +0000 http://sciencepolicy.colorado.edu/prometheusreborn/?p=4202#comment-9019 I have a theory that most of the public were really actually looking forward to a bit of warming so the new theory about warming possibly causing cooling via gulf stream shifts started to be really pushed forward. Hence global warming becomes global climate change and all bad weather; hot, cold, wet, dry can be easily attributed to it some way or another. Of course dry areas always get drier, wet areas get wetter, windy areas get windier etc. From whence comes all this pessimism? I have a theory that most of the public were really actually looking forward to a bit of warming so the new theory about warming possibly causing cooling via gulf stream shifts started to be really pushed forward. Hence global warming becomes global climate change and all bad weather; hot, cold, wet, dry can be easily attributed to it some way or another. Of course dry areas always get drier, wet areas get wetter, windy areas get windier etc. From whence comes all this pessimism?

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By: Roger A. Pielke Sr. http://cstpr.colorado.edu/prometheus/?p=4202&cpage=1#comment-9018 Roger A. Pielke Sr. Tue, 08 May 2007 22:55:58 +0000 http://sciencepolicy.colorado.edu/prometheusreborn/?p=4202#comment-9018 Tom- "Global warming" is just a subset of "climate change" as discussed at Climate Science on May 1 2007 in the weblog entitled "Confusion in the Definitions of Global Warming and Climate Change" [http://climatesci.colorado.edu/2007/05/01/confusion-in-the-definitions-of-global-warming-and-climate-change/]. People who use the term "climate change" when they mean global system heat changes (i.e. "global warming") are significantly oversimplifying the climate system. Tom- “Global warming” is just a subset of “climate change” as discussed at Climate Science on May 1 2007 in the weblog entitled “Confusion in the Definitions of Global Warming and Climate Change” [http://climatesci.colorado.edu/2007/05/01/confusion-in-the-definitions-of-global-warming-and-climate-change/].

People who use the term “climate change” when they mean global system heat changes (i.e. “global warming”) are significantly oversimplifying the climate system.

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By: tom http://cstpr.colorado.edu/prometheus/?p=4202&cpage=1#comment-9017 tom Tue, 08 May 2007 15:13:13 +0000 http://sciencepolicy.colorado.edu/prometheusreborn/?p=4202#comment-9017 Can somebody explain why the term 'climate change ' seems to used almost exclusively as opposed to the term 'global warming"? Can somebody explain why the term ‘climate change ‘ seems to used almost exclusively as opposed to the term ‘global warming”?

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By: Roger Pielke, Jr. http://cstpr.colorado.edu/prometheus/?p=4202&cpage=1#comment-9016 Roger Pielke, Jr. Tue, 08 May 2007 13:07:40 +0000 http://sciencepolicy.colorado.edu/prometheusreborn/?p=4202#comment-9016 Fergus- Thanks. Climate research is about 5% of health research and about 25% of energy R&D. It is less than the homeland security R&D budget. If you want some actual numbers see: http://www.aaas.org/spp/rd/tbres08p.pdf There is really no line item for "perceived threats to national security" other than DHS, and I would not recommend transferring any climate funding to DHS;-) On the other hand, developing effective policies in response to climate change (adaptive) would beenfit from a closer connection to the mission agencies, and national security is an important mission, so there is probably some merit to what you suggest. Thanks! Fergus- Thanks. Climate research is about 5% of health research and about 25% of energy R&D. It is less than the homeland security R&D budget. If you want some actual numbers see:

http://www.aaas.org/spp/rd/tbres08p.pdf

There is really no line item for “perceived threats to national security” other than DHS, and I would not recommend transferring any climate funding to DHS;-) On the other hand, developing effective policies in response to climate change (adaptive) would beenfit from a closer connection to the mission agencies, and national security is an important mission, so there is probably some merit to what you suggest.

Thanks!

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By: Fergus Brown http://cstpr.colorado.edu/prometheus/?p=4202&cpage=1#comment-9015 Fergus Brown Tue, 08 May 2007 12:50:26 +0000 http://sciencepolicy.colorado.edu/prometheusreborn/?p=4202#comment-9015 Roger: a bit of a side point, I know, but what is the spend on climate research at the moment? How does this compare/relate to other budgets, for example energy R&D, or spending on 'perceived threats to national security'? And do you think that the time has come to classify GW as the latter? Roger: a bit of a side point, I know, but what is the spend on climate research at the moment? How does this compare/relate to other budgets, for example energy R&D, or spending on ‘perceived threats to national security’? And do you think that the time has come to classify GW as the latter?

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By: Roger Pielke, Jr. http://cstpr.colorado.edu/prometheus/?p=4202&cpage=1#comment-9014 Roger Pielke, Jr. Tue, 08 May 2007 06:22:15 +0000 http://sciencepolicy.colorado.edu/prometheusreborn/?p=4202#comment-9014 Hi David- Jon Oberg was doing policy evaluation research -- pretty important if performance matters -- and when he brought to his supervisor was punished as the bearer of bad news. Effective implementation depends upon effective evaluation, and effective evaluation is a research function. Thanks! Hi David-

Jon Oberg was doing policy evaluation research — pretty important if performance matters — and when he brought to his supervisor was punished as the bearer of bad news. Effective implementation depends upon effective evaluation, and effective evaluation is a research function.

Thanks!

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By: David Bruggeman http://cstpr.colorado.edu/prometheus/?p=4202&cpage=1#comment-9013 David Bruggeman Mon, 07 May 2007 20:43:06 +0000 http://sciencepolicy.colorado.edu/prometheusreborn/?p=4202#comment-9013 Roger, What's the policy research angle? This is more a failure of program implementation and/or evaluation. Neither of these are necessarily connected to policy research. Roger,

What’s the policy research angle? This is more a failure of program implementation and/or evaluation. Neither of these are necessarily connected to policy research.

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