Comments on: Old Wine in New Bottles http://cstpr.colorado.edu/prometheus/?p=3431 Wed, 29 Jul 2009 22:36:51 -0600 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.9.1 hourly 1 By: Roger Pielke, Jr. http://cstpr.colorado.edu/prometheus/?p=3431&cpage=1#comment-964 Roger Pielke, Jr. Thu, 24 Mar 2005 18:23:07 +0000 http://sciencepolicy.colorado.edu/prometheusreborn/?p=3431#comment-964 John- Thanks for your comment. It points to the little appreciated but terribly important fact that the IPCC and Climate Convention mean different things when each says "climate change." The former uses the phrase as you have, but the latter restrict the definition quite narrowly. For a discussion, see this paper: http://sciencepolicy.colorado.edu/admin/publication_files/resourse-486-2004.09.pdf John-

Thanks for your comment. It points to the little appreciated but terribly important fact that the IPCC and Climate Convention mean different things when each says “climate change.” The former uses the phrase as you have, but the latter restrict the definition quite narrowly. For a discussion, see this paper: http://sciencepolicy.colorado.edu/admin/publication_files/resourse-486-2004.09.pdf

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By: John A http://cstpr.colorado.edu/prometheus/?p=3431&cpage=1#comment-963 John A Thu, 24 Mar 2005 14:49:15 +0000 http://sciencepolicy.colorado.edu/prometheusreborn/?p=3431#comment-963 I'm puzzled. "...even under a scenario of aggressive mitigation most experts expect climate change.” What were they expecting before? Whatever gave them the notion that climate was static before man, or before agriculture, or before the Industrial Revolution, or before the internal combustion engine, or before the Hummer? (Hint: the answer is at http://www.climateaudit.org ) Think about it, if someone came to you and said, "even with the most aggressive mitigation, most experts expect changes in weather", what would you say (other than "Officer, take this person away")? I’m puzzled.

“…even under a scenario of aggressive mitigation most experts expect climate change.”

What were they expecting before? Whatever gave them the notion that climate was static before man, or before agriculture, or before the Industrial Revolution, or before the internal combustion engine, or before the Hummer?

(Hint: the answer is at http://www.climateaudit.org )

Think about it, if someone came to you and said, “even with the most aggressive mitigation, most experts expect changes in weather”, what would you say (other than “Officer, take this person away”)?

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By: Seeker Blog http://cstpr.colorado.edu/prometheus/?p=3431&cpage=1#comment-966 Seeker Blog Sun, 20 Mar 2005 00:34:13 +0000 http://sciencepolicy.colorado.edu/prometheusreborn/?p=3431#comment-966 <strong>Old Wine in New Bottles</strong> Roger Pielke Jr. just posted this must-read on Prometheus, which is a reliably reliable source of critical thinking on climate change. There are two very useful references in Roger's post, his own 1998 paper "Rethinking the Role of Adaptation in C... Old Wine in New Bottles

Roger Pielke Jr. just posted this must-read on Prometheus, which is a reliably reliable source of critical thinking on climate change. There are two very useful references in Roger’s post, his own 1998 paper "Rethinking the Role of Adaptation in C…

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By: Muck and Mystery http://cstpr.colorado.edu/prometheus/?p=3431&cpage=1#comment-965 Muck and Mystery Fri, 18 Mar 2005 18:05:58 +0000 http://sciencepolicy.colorado.edu/prometheusreborn/?p=3431#comment-965 <strong>Fantasy Land</strong> The conclusion of another post, Half Baked, that political approaches to climate change using current technologies are empty exercises for the benefit of ideologues and bureaucrats, is similar to Roger Pielke's take. Science magazine has published two... Fantasy Land

The conclusion of another post, Half Baked, that political approaches to climate change using current technologies are empty exercises for the benefit of ideologues and bureaucrats, is similar to Roger Pielke’s take. Science magazine has published two…

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