Comments on: Long Live the Linear Model http://cstpr.colorado.edu/prometheus/?p=3799 Wed, 29 Jul 2009 22:36:51 -0600 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.9.1 hourly 1 By: Terence http://cstpr.colorado.edu/prometheus/?p=3799&cpage=1#comment-4101 Terence Fri, 28 Apr 2006 20:54:27 +0000 http://sciencepolicy.colorado.edu/prometheusreborn/?p=3799#comment-4101 Abram Reese Tristin Bernard Philip Jamal Abram Reese Tristin Bernard Philip Jamal

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By: oliver morton http://cstpr.colorado.edu/prometheus/?p=3799&cpage=1#comment-4100 oliver morton Thu, 20 Apr 2006 11:46:02 +0000 http://sciencepolicy.colorado.edu/prometheusreborn/?p=3799#comment-4100 Leaving aside the linear model, there's a pernicious mercantilism in the sentiment that for scientists to go abroad in search of funds is more damaging than them leaving science completely. Come to think of it, though, maybe that's a necessary corollary of teh linear model as used in this sort of rhetoric. Leaving aside the linear model, there’s a pernicious mercantilism in the sentiment that for scientists to go abroad in search of funds is more damaging than them leaving science completely. Come to think of it, though, maybe that’s a necessary corollary of teh linear model as used in this sort of rhetoric.

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By: Roger Pielke Jr. http://cstpr.colorado.edu/prometheus/?p=3799&cpage=1#comment-4099 Roger Pielke Jr. Thu, 20 Apr 2006 02:01:13 +0000 http://sciencepolicy.colorado.edu/prometheusreborn/?p=3799#comment-4099 David- Thanks, you said this much better than I did! David- Thanks, you said this much better than I did!

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By: David Bruggeman http://cstpr.colorado.edu/prometheus/?p=3799&cpage=1#comment-4098 David Bruggeman Wed, 19 Apr 2006 20:47:53 +0000 http://sciencepolicy.colorado.edu/prometheusreborn/?p=3799#comment-4098 The linear model emphasized here is a perception that scientific and/or technical knowledge can only be generated from basic research through applied research and/or development. Said another way, knowledge can only be generated along this linear path. The perceived value comes from the assertion that scientific research is privileged because it is the primary source of subsequent scientific and technical knowledge. I'd characterize the other linear model more as a cousin than a subset, mainly because one model is dealing with knowledge generation, and the other with policy decision making (I also think the linear policy model is not as relevant outside of "science for policy" issues, which are only part of science and technology policy). The key assumption in linking the models is that science policy decisions can (and should) be decided just like scientific research questions. Even if you agree with that assumption (which I do not), you can still criticize the linear models as being simplistic and broadly ignorant about much of the process of developing and codifying scientific knowledge. STS scholars have dealt with both linear models. For work countering or criticizing the linear model of research, look at any work studying the development of research fields, especially in engineering. Anthropological or ethnographic work like Latour's Laboratory Life also deal with the linear research model. Roger is right to point out that the criticisms of the linear research model have been well established within STS. The field has done a lousy job of communicating with other fields, much less those outside academe, to communicate their work. For STS work dealing with the linear model of science policy development (get the science settled first, then you can deal with policy) look at scholars involved in boundary work. In STS this is usually focused on the boundary between science and pseudoscience (folk medicine, ufology, etc.), but it is applicable to the science/policy boundary danced around on this site. Some of David Guston's work focuses on this boundary. The linear model emphasized here is a perception that scientific and/or technical knowledge can only be generated from basic research through applied research and/or development. Said another way, knowledge can only be generated along this linear path. The perceived value comes from the assertion that scientific research is privileged because it is the primary source of subsequent scientific and technical knowledge.

I’d characterize the other linear model more as a cousin than a subset, mainly because one model is dealing with knowledge generation, and the other with policy decision making (I also think the linear policy model is not as relevant outside of “science for policy” issues, which are only part of science and technology policy).

The key assumption in linking the models is that science policy decisions can (and should) be decided just like scientific research questions. Even if you agree with that assumption (which I do not), you can still criticize the linear models as being simplistic and broadly ignorant about much of the process of developing and codifying scientific knowledge.

STS scholars have dealt with both linear models. For work countering or criticizing the linear model of research, look at any work studying the development of research fields, especially in engineering. Anthropological or ethnographic work like Latour’s Laboratory Life also deal with the linear research model. Roger is right to point out that the criticisms of the linear research model have been well established within STS. The field has done a lousy job of communicating with other fields, much less those outside academe, to communicate their work.

For STS work dealing with the linear model of science policy development (get the science settled first, then you can deal with policy) look at scholars involved in boundary work. In STS this is usually focused on the boundary between science and pseudoscience (folk medicine, ufology, etc.), but it is applicable to the science/policy boundary danced around on this site. Some of David Guston’s work focuses on this boundary.

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By: Roger Pielke Jr. http://cstpr.colorado.edu/prometheus/?p=3799&cpage=1#comment-4097 Roger Pielke Jr. Wed, 19 Apr 2006 20:14:56 +0000 http://sciencepolicy.colorado.edu/prometheusreborn/?p=3799#comment-4097 Andrew- Thanks for your comments. A few replies: 1. Of course basic research has value. I would simply argue, as many scholars have, that the linear model is not a particularly effective basis for science policy decision making. 2. You are right that I use the linear model in 2 ways, but I view one as a subset/cousin of the other. 3. Have a look at this paper: Pielke, Jr., R.A., and R. Byerly, Jr., 1998: Beyond Basic and Applied. Physics Today, 51(2), 42-46. http://sciencepolicy.colorado.edu/admin/publication_files/resource-166-1998.12.pdf 4. You ask, "Are you criticising your fellow STS-ers for not mounting a more vigorous defense of your area? If that's not it, who are you criticizing?" I see your point. But I am criticizing both STSers for not speaking out more authoritatively, but also I am criticizing people who advocate theories of science policy without actually taking the time to determine if those theories are in fact accurate. I can imagine that I'd be pretty well taken to task if I wrote an op-ed in which I suggested a theory of climate change simply grounded in my suppositions! Thanks! Andrew-

Thanks for your comments. A few replies:

1. Of course basic research has value. I would simply argue, as many scholars have, that the linear model is not a particularly effective basis for science policy decision making.

2. You are right that I use the linear model in 2 ways, but I view one as a subset/cousin of the other.

3. Have a look at this paper:

Pielke, Jr., R.A., and R. Byerly, Jr., 1998: Beyond Basic and Applied. Physics Today, 51(2), 42-46.
http://sciencepolicy.colorado.edu/admin/publication_files/resource-166-1998.12.pdf

4. You ask, “Are you criticising your fellow STS-ers for not mounting a more vigorous defense of your area? If that’s not it, who are you criticizing?”

I see your point. But I am criticizing both STSers for not speaking out more authoritatively, but also I am criticizing people who advocate theories of science policy without actually taking the time to determine if those theories are in fact accurate. I can imagine that I’d be pretty well taken to task if I wrote an op-ed in which I suggested a theory of climate change simply grounded in my suppositions!

Thanks!

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By: Andrew Dessler http://cstpr.colorado.edu/prometheus/?p=3799&cpage=1#comment-4096 Andrew Dessler Wed, 19 Apr 2006 19:47:52 +0000 http://sciencepolicy.colorado.edu/prometheusreborn/?p=3799#comment-4096 Roger- You seem to use "linear model" in two ways ... one situation is when people argue that getting the science right on an issue will compel a certain policy outcome. We can both agree that's bunkum. The other quite different situation is described in this post. On this point, we might disagree, since I tend to believe that basic research does have value to society. Are you arguing that nothing of value ever results from basic research, or just that there's a more efficient way to achieve benefits to society than basic research? Finally, your last statement: Scientists often get quite worked up when scientific knowledge is mispresented in the media, and rightly so. However, it seems that the bar is set quite a bit lower when it comes to the (mis)representation of knowledge from science studies. is somewhat ambiguous. Are you criticising your fellow STS-ers for not mounting a more vigorous defense of your area? If that's not it, who are you criticizing? Regards. Regards. Roger-

You seem to use “linear model” in two ways … one situation is when people argue that getting the science right on an issue will compel a certain policy outcome. We can both agree that’s bunkum.

The other quite different situation is described in this post. On this point, we might disagree, since I tend to believe that basic research does have value to society. Are you arguing that nothing of value ever results from basic research, or just that there’s a more efficient way to achieve benefits to society than basic research?

Finally, your last statement:
Scientists often get quite worked up when scientific knowledge is mispresented in the media, and rightly so. However, it seems that the bar is set quite a bit lower when it comes to the (mis)representation of knowledge from science studies.
is somewhat ambiguous. Are you criticising your fellow STS-ers for not mounting a more vigorous defense of your area? If that’s not it, who are you criticizing?

Regards.

Regards.

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