Comments on: What Exactly Did President Obama Promise Today? http://cstpr.colorado.edu/prometheus/?p=5165 Wed, 29 Jul 2009 22:36:51 -0600 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.9.1 hourly 1 By: Opponents submit 35,000 signatures to demand Guatemalan leader be stripped of immunity ASEAN Society ASEAN Society http://cstpr.colorado.edu/prometheus/?p=5165&cpage=1#comment-13906 Opponents submit 35,000 signatures to demand Guatemalan leader be stripped of immunity ASEAN Society ASEAN Society Tue, 19 May 2009 07:42:50 +0000 http://sciencepolicy.colorado.edu/prometheus/?p=5165#comment-13906 [...] What Exactly Did President Obama Promise Today? [...] [...] What Exactly Did President Obama Promise Today? [...]

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By: Asia should rebound next year: ADB president | ASEAN Society http://cstpr.colorado.edu/prometheus/?p=5165&cpage=1#comment-13727 Asia should rebound next year: ADB president | ASEAN Society Mon, 04 May 2009 15:54:08 +0000 http://sciencepolicy.colorado.edu/prometheus/?p=5165#comment-13727 [...] What Exactly Did President Obama Promise Today? [...] [...] What Exactly Did President Obama Promise Today? [...]

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By: What is Obama’s Asia policy? | ASEAN Society http://cstpr.colorado.edu/prometheus/?p=5165&cpage=1#comment-13633 What is Obama’s Asia policy? | ASEAN Society Wed, 29 Apr 2009 10:56:53 +0000 http://sciencepolicy.colorado.edu/prometheus/?p=5165#comment-13633 [...] What Exactly Did President Obama Promise Today? [...] [...] What Exactly Did President Obama Promise Today? [...]

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By: David Bruggeman http://cstpr.colorado.edu/prometheus/?p=5165&cpage=1#comment-13618 David Bruggeman Tue, 28 Apr 2009 17:01:33 +0000 http://sciencepolicy.colorado.edu/prometheus/?p=5165#comment-13618 Does the paper account for the suppressed wages of the graduate students that do a significant volume of this work? Generally speaking, graduate student stipends may not be treated as wages, or if they are treated as wages, would likely average out to not much better than minimum wage. Another conceptual issue with these calculations - not limited to this paper - is the valuation of social rate of return/public rate of return on a striclty monetary basis. The presumption is that it's the only return the government values on its investment. If this investment attracts new students, who would then be prompted to generate other knowledge and invention, that would be a value the government would seek that the private sector wouldn't necessarily care about. Does the paper account for the suppressed wages of the graduate students that do a significant volume of this work? Generally speaking, graduate student stipends may not be treated as wages, or if they are treated as wages, would likely average out to not much better than minimum wage.

Another conceptual issue with these calculations – not limited to this paper – is the valuation of social rate of return/public rate of return on a striclty monetary basis. The presumption is that it’s the only return the government values on its investment. If this investment attracts new students, who would then be prompted to generate other knowledge and invention, that would be a value the government would seek that the private sector wouldn’t necessarily care about.

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By: wek http://cstpr.colorado.edu/prometheus/?p=5165&cpage=1#comment-13613 wek Tue, 28 Apr 2009 15:56:51 +0000 http://sciencepolicy.colorado.edu/prometheus/?p=5165#comment-13613 Related to the increase proposed by the President, Greg Mankiw today posted the abstract of a Austan Goolsbee NBER paper questioning the effectiveness of federally supported research: "Conventional wisdom holds that the social rate of return to R&D significantly exceeds the private rate of return and, therefore, R&D should be subsidized. In the U.S., the government has directly funded a large fraction of total R&D spending. This paper shows that there is a serious problem with such government efforts to increase inventive activity. The majority of R&D spending is actually just salary payments for R&D workers. Their labor supply, however, is quite inelastic so when the government funds R&D, a significant fraction of the increased spending goes directly into higher wages. Using CPS data on wages of scientific personnel, this paper shows that government R&D spending raises wages significantly, particularly for scientists related to defense such as physicists and aeronautical engineers. Because of the higher wages, conventional estimates of the effectiveness of R&D policy may be 30 to 50% too high. The results also imply that by altering the wages of scientists and engineers even for firms not receiving federal support, government funding directly crowds out private inventive activity." Gary Becker has also written that public support often drives out, or substitutes, for private money. Related to the increase proposed by the President, Greg Mankiw today posted the abstract of a Austan Goolsbee NBER paper questioning the effectiveness of federally supported research:

“Conventional wisdom holds that the social rate of return to R&D significantly exceeds the private rate of return and, therefore, R&D should be subsidized. In the U.S., the government has directly funded a large fraction of total R&D spending. This paper shows that there is a serious problem with such government efforts to increase inventive activity. The majority of R&D spending is actually just salary payments for R&D workers. Their labor supply, however, is quite inelastic so when the government funds R&D, a significant fraction of the increased spending goes directly into higher wages. Using CPS data on wages of scientific personnel, this paper shows that government R&D spending raises wages significantly, particularly for scientists related to defense such as physicists and aeronautical engineers. Because of the higher wages, conventional estimates of the effectiveness of R&D policy may be 30 to 50% too high. The results also imply that by altering the wages of scientists and engineers even for firms not receiving federal support, government funding directly crowds out private inventive activity.”

Gary Becker has also written that public support often drives out, or substitutes, for private money.

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By: lucia http://cstpr.colorado.edu/prometheus/?p=5165&cpage=1#comment-13606 lucia Tue, 28 Apr 2009 13:31:48 +0000 http://sciencepolicy.colorado.edu/prometheus/?p=5165#comment-13606 He promised <i>to set a goal.</i> He promised to set a goal.

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By: jae http://cstpr.colorado.edu/prometheus/?p=5165&cpage=1#comment-13602 jae Mon, 27 Apr 2009 23:00:28 +0000 http://sciencepolicy.colorado.edu/prometheus/?p=5165#comment-13602 This article says it's currently at 2.6%. http://spectator.org/blog/2009/04/27/did-obama-just-propose-another Maybe Gibbs will tell us what is going on? This article says it’s currently at 2.6%. http://spectator.org/blog/2009/04/27/did-obama-just-propose-another

Maybe Gibbs will tell us what is going on?

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