Comments on: Interesting Coincidence http://cstpr.colorado.edu/prometheus/?p=3497 Wed, 29 Jul 2009 22:36:51 -0600 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.9.1 hourly 1 By: Observer http://cstpr.colorado.edu/prometheus/?p=3497&cpage=1#comment-1176 Observer Tue, 14 Jun 2005 04:13:44 +0000 http://sciencepolicy.colorado.edu/prometheusreborn/?p=3497#comment-1176 Although I find your skepticism about claims of overt bias in the publishing practices of leading science journals admirable, I also believe it is regrettably niave in this particular instance. Judging from Dr. Trenberth's recent comments at Harvard, I'll wager his conclusions on the perceived linkage will be substantially different that of you and your co-authors. And thus, far more in line with the results the Board of Reviewing Editors is looking for. But perhaps he does present novel concepts worthy of publication and I am simply too jaded this evening. Regardless, I look forward to comparing Dr. Trenberth's conclusions with yours. Although I find your skepticism about claims of overt bias in the publishing practices of leading science journals admirable, I also believe it is regrettably niave in this particular instance.

Judging from Dr. Trenberth’s recent comments at Harvard, I’ll wager his conclusions on the perceived linkage will be substantially different that of you and your co-authors.

And thus, far more in line with the results the Board of Reviewing Editors is looking for.

But perhaps he does present novel concepts worthy of publication and I am simply too jaded this evening. Regardless, I look forward to comparing Dr. Trenberth’s conclusions with yours.

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By: Roger Pielke, Jr. http://cstpr.colorado.edu/prometheus/?p=3497&cpage=1#comment-1175 Roger Pielke, Jr. Tue, 14 Jun 2005 03:39:56 +0000 http://sciencepolicy.colorado.edu/prometheusreborn/?p=3497#comment-1175 This will appear on the main blog shortly as well ... The Good Explanation – Apologies Welcome to the weblog … as I sat down to write a disgruntled letter to Donald Kennedy tonight, I went through my old email and discovered that it was Nature, not Science that rejected our hurricane paper without review. My apologies for the error and for creating short-lived false hopes conspiracy theorists. We call it like we see it here, especially when we are in error (surely won’t be the last time). Meantime, do read the various papers on hurricanes and climate change, a comparison will be informative. This will appear on the main blog shortly as well …

The Good Explanation – Apologies

Welcome to the weblog … as I sat down to write a disgruntled letter to Donald Kennedy tonight, I went through my old email and discovered that it was Nature, not Science that rejected our hurricane paper without review.

My apologies for the error and for creating short-lived false hopes conspiracy theorists. We call it like we see it here, especially when we are in error (surely won’t be the last time). Meantime, do read the various papers on hurricanes and climate change, a comparison will be informative.

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By: Eli Rabett http://cstpr.colorado.edu/prometheus/?p=3497&cpage=1#comment-1174 Eli Rabett Tue, 14 Jun 2005 03:25:32 +0000 http://sciencepolicy.colorado.edu/prometheusreborn/?p=3497#comment-1174 Come, come, this false modesty ill becomes you. You knew something from Trenberth on hurricanes was in the works ever since Landsea took his ball and went home from the IPCC FAR over Trenberth's remarks at Harvard http://www.worldclimatereport.com/index.php/2005/01/18/2500-less-1-2/. and certainly in October 04 http://www.ucar.edu/communications/staffnotes/0410/hurricane.html. Given that Trenberth is in Boulder, you might have called him up for lunch and talked it over. OTOH, it was pretty clear in a policy context that your paper was a warning shot to Trenberth, and I guess that his was too for Landsea, just a question of who got there first with the most where. Given the timing, call it a draw. Yes Prof. Pielke, there are egos here, and I am just as shocked as you. Still I have no horse in this race, but a bag of popcorn I would gladly share. We have on the one side, someone who knows about as much about hurricanes as anyone, and on the other someone who knows about as much about climate variability as anyone. I fully expect something interesting to come out of this as it often does on the sharp and uncomfortable edge. Which is good, though occasionally messy. Come, come, this false modesty ill becomes you. You knew something from Trenberth on hurricanes was in the works ever since Landsea took his ball and went home from the IPCC FAR over Trenberth’s remarks at Harvard http://www.worldclimatereport.com/index.php/2005/01/18/2500-less-1-2/. and certainly in October 04 http://www.ucar.edu/communications/staffnotes/0410/hurricane.html. Given that Trenberth is in Boulder, you might have called him up for lunch and talked it over.

OTOH, it was pretty clear in a policy context that your paper was a warning shot to Trenberth, and I guess that his was too for Landsea, just a question of who got there first with the most where. Given the timing, call it a draw.

Yes Prof. Pielke, there are egos here, and I am just as shocked as you.

Still I have no horse in this race, but a bag of popcorn I would gladly share. We have on the one side, someone who knows about as much about hurricanes as anyone, and on the other someone who knows about as much about climate variability as anyone. I fully expect something interesting to come out of this as it often does on the sharp and uncomfortable edge. Which is good, though occasionally messy.

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By: Dano http://cstpr.colorado.edu/prometheus/?p=3497&cpage=1#comment-1173 Dano Mon, 13 Jun 2005 19:56:39 +0000 http://sciencepolicy.colorado.edu/prometheusreborn/?p=3497#comment-1173 Please let us know, Roger, of the results of your inquiry. D Please let us know, Roger, of the results of your inquiry.

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