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March 29, 2006

Pielke Sr. and Jr. Profiled in Nature


Posted to Author: Pielke Jr., R. | Hodge Podge

Here is a link to the article.

Posted on March 29, 2006 10:37 AM

Comments

Now I know that Nature has totally lost it! :^)

Posted by: Chip Knappenberger at March 29, 2006 02:36 PM


Nice puff piece. Are they making nice for some reason?

D

Posted by: Dano at March 29, 2006 04:59 PM


Congratulations, you were painted as Jesus Christ and His father. ;-)

Posted by: Lubos Motl at March 29, 2006 05:16 PM


Congrats on the appearence. I blogged it, of course.

I don't understand "neither father nor son thinks that predicting global average climate trends is possible". Do you really believe that? RP Sr has posted an ambiguous comment on my blog, so I don't know whether he supports it or not. Did you say that, or is its Natures inaccurate paraphrase?

Posted by: William Connolley at March 30, 2006 12:50 PM


Predicting climate trends will be possible after figuring out all the specific biota responses, circulation changes from land use changes, quantify clould influences, black carbon effecxts, etc...

Posted by: Steve Hemphill at March 30, 2006 01:33 PM


William-

Thanks. Overall I think that the author did a nice job, though that was one of two sentences that I'd quibble with, but I think that most readers would understand. That sentence does not accurately reflect my views, and I don't think my father's either. I chalk it up to a situation of too much subtlety for the available few words, which probably has more to do with the complexity of the issues rather than anything else.

A direct reply to your question:

Of course it is possible to predict global average climate trends. I'm not clear on what is actually implied by saying that it is not possible. I am sure my father would same something with a great deal of subtlety about how _accurate_ prediction in unlikely without considering the full spectrum of first-order effects. And of course a lot more could be said (and has) about climate prediction and its uses.

Also, FYI I co-edited a whole book on "prediction," which includes a chapter by Steve Rayner (now at Oxford) on climate change, and Dan Sarewitz and I have written extensively on this subject. For instance:

Pielke, Jr., R.A., 2003: The role of models in prediction for decision, Chapter 7, pp. 113-137 in C. Canham and W. Lauenroth (eds.), Understanding Ecosystems: The Role of Quantitative Models in Observations, Synthesis, and Prediction, Princeton University Press, Princeton, N.J.
http://sciencepolicy.colorado.edu/admin/publication_files/2001.12.pdf

Thanks!

Posted by: Roger Pielke, Jr. at March 30, 2006 01:34 PM


Hi Roger, thanks for that reply.

Posted by: William Connolley at March 31, 2006 02:05 AM




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