Comments on: Kudos to Kerry Emanuel http://cstpr.colorado.edu/prometheus/?p=4379 Wed, 29 Jul 2009 22:36:51 -0600 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.9.1 hourly 1 By: Harry Haymuss http://cstpr.colorado.edu/prometheus/?p=4379&cpage=1#comment-9667 Harry Haymuss Sun, 13 Apr 2008 14:31:13 +0000 http://sciencepolicy.colorado.edu/prometheusreborn/?p=4379#comment-9667 Oops - I was incorrect when I stated no models predict Antarctica cooling. This one does: http://www.dsri.dk/~hsv/Noter/solsys99.html Oops – I was incorrect when I stated no models predict Antarctica cooling. This one does:
http://www.dsri.dk/~hsv/Noter/solsys99.html

]]> By: Harry Haymuss http://cstpr.colorado.edu/prometheus/?p=4379&cpage=1#comment-9666 Harry Haymuss Sun, 13 Apr 2008 14:25:30 +0000 http://sciencepolicy.colorado.edu/prometheusreborn/?p=4379#comment-9666 That's funny Charles. You think the science is settled? How can the "science be settled" when exactly zero models predicted this: http://earthobservatory.nasa.gov/Newsroom/NewImages/images.php3?img_id=17257 No, there is a long way to go. We can either let a few people get really rich off everyone else's suffering (and they have one heck of a propaganda machine going), or we can spend our resources figuring out what's really going on. Our computational ability is extremely weak, as shown in Figure 10 at the bottom of this: http://www.gfdl.noaa.gov/reference/bibliography/2000/annrev00.pdf Then, of course, we have this for those without the bigger picture in mind: http://www.nasa.gov/centers/goddard/news/topstory/2003/0530earthgreen.html As Emanuel shows, the more we know the more we know we don't know. If you think the science is settled, where does that put you on that spectrum? That’s funny Charles. You think the science is settled? How can the “science be settled” when exactly zero models predicted this:
http://earthobservatory.nasa.gov/Newsroom/NewImages/images.php3?img_id=17257

No, there is a long way to go. We can either let a few people get really rich off everyone else’s suffering (and they have one heck of a propaganda machine going), or we can spend our resources figuring out what’s really going on. Our computational ability is extremely weak, as shown in Figure 10 at the bottom of this:
http://www.gfdl.noaa.gov/reference/bibliography/2000/annrev00.pdf

Then, of course, we have this for those without the bigger picture in mind:
http://www.nasa.gov/centers/goddard/news/topstory/2003/0530earthgreen.html

As Emanuel shows, the more we know the more we know we don’t know. If you think the science is settled, where does that put you on that spectrum?

]]> By: charlesH http://cstpr.colorado.edu/prometheus/?p=4379&cpage=1#comment-9665 charlesH Sun, 13 Apr 2008 05:45:42 +0000 http://sciencepolicy.colorado.edu/prometheusreborn/?p=4379#comment-9665 Maybe at least some AGW scientists have figured out that if "the science is settled" we can shift resources from doing science to implementing solutions. I think "more study is needed" will be the mantra for a very long time. Maybe at least some AGW scientists have figured out that if “the science is settled” we can shift resources from doing science to implementing solutions.

I think “more study is needed” will be the mantra for a very long time.

]]> By: charlesH http://cstpr.colorado.edu/prometheus/?p=4379&cpage=1#comment-9664 charlesH Sun, 13 Apr 2008 05:45:11 +0000 http://sciencepolicy.colorado.edu/prometheusreborn/?p=4379#comment-9664 Maybe at least some AGW scientists have figured out that if "the science is settled" we can shift resources from doing science to implementing solutions. I think "more study is needed" will be the mantra for a very long time. Maybe at least some AGW scientists have figured out that if “the science is settled” we can shift resources from doing science to implementing solutions.

I think “more study is needed” will be the mantra for a very long time.

]]> By: Eric Berger http://cstpr.colorado.edu/prometheus/?p=4379&cpage=1#comment-9663 Eric Berger Sat, 12 Apr 2008 01:31:10 +0000 http://sciencepolicy.colorado.edu/prometheusreborn/?p=4379#comment-9663 I hope Kerry doesn't think I exaggerated his reputation! Seriously, I think the paper, which is written frankly and clearly shows his doubts about the relationship between global warming and hurricane intensity, displays his open mind about the topic. There are idealogues everywhere in the global warming debate. Many are Republicans who loathe Al Gore, but there are definitely scientists who are idealogues as well. Clearly Emanuel is not among them. This reporter also appreciates him because he's wonderfully accessible. Eric Berger I hope Kerry doesn’t think I exaggerated his reputation!

Seriously, I think the paper, which is written frankly and clearly shows his doubts about the relationship between global warming and hurricane intensity, displays his open mind about the topic. There are idealogues everywhere in the global warming debate. Many are Republicans who loathe Al Gore, but there are definitely scientists who are idealogues as well. Clearly Emanuel is not among them.

This reporter also appreciates him because he’s wonderfully accessible.

Eric Berger

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