Comments on: Science, Politics, Variability, Change, Learning, Uncertainty http://cstpr.colorado.edu/prometheus/?p=4132 Wed, 29 Jul 2009 22:36:51 -0600 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.9.1 hourly 1 By: Tim Clear http://cstpr.colorado.edu/prometheus/?p=4132&cpage=1#comment-8467 Tim Clear Thu, 01 Mar 2007 14:13:02 +0000 http://sciencepolicy.colorado.edu/prometheusreborn/?p=4132#comment-8467 In the SW US, the summer thunderstorms are small and intense. The "100 year storm" can be over an area as small as two square miles. If a city is 20 miles square, it will average two of those per year. If it hits the wrong place or maybe there are four in a year (hardly a statistical outlier), there are alarmist reports. This is not to say the current intensity distribution maps are not sadly innaccurate... There is also shown to be an increase in urban rainfall due to the UHI. The UHI, of course, is under the same attack as the MWP - the carbon traders (and their dupes) have to get rid of it to enhance their bottom line... In the SW US, the summer thunderstorms are small and intense. The “100 year storm” can be over an area as small as two square miles. If a city is 20 miles square, it will average two of those per year. If it hits the wrong place or maybe there are four in a year (hardly a statistical outlier), there are alarmist reports. This is not to say the current intensity distribution maps are not sadly innaccurate…

There is also shown to be an increase in urban rainfall due to the UHI. The UHI, of course, is under the same attack as the MWP – the carbon traders (and their dupes) have to get rid of it to enhance their bottom line…

]]> By: Steve Sadlov http://cstpr.colorado.edu/prometheus/?p=4132&cpage=1#comment-8466 Steve Sadlov Wed, 28 Feb 2007 20:11:57 +0000 http://sciencepolicy.colorado.edu/prometheusreborn/?p=4132#comment-8466 Consider the confluence of micro geographies and micro climates common throughout the US West. Indeed, attempting to create a "100 year flood map" is a fool's errand. Consider the confluence of micro geographies and micro climates common throughout the US West. Indeed, attempting to create a “100 year flood map” is a fool’s errand.

]]> By: jfleck http://cstpr.colorado.edu/prometheus/?p=4132&cpage=1#comment-8465 jfleck Tue, 27 Feb 2007 17:03:48 +0000 http://sciencepolicy.colorado.edu/prometheusreborn/?p=4132#comment-8465 Roger - Last summer, we had heavy summer rainfall here in New Mexico that was, by any measure, a statistical outlier. This triggered a fascinating series of discussions among the meteorology, civil engineering, political, policy communities and the public, often mediated by the news media. It became clear over the course of these discussions that there was not a clear and common understanding of the terms of discussion: that is, the notion of a "100 year flood" did not have a universally understood definition. Roger -

Last summer, we had heavy summer rainfall here in New Mexico that was, by any measure, a statistical outlier. This triggered a fascinating series of discussions among the meteorology, civil engineering, political, policy communities and the public, often mediated by the news media. It became clear over the course of these discussions that there was not a clear and common understanding of the terms of discussion: that is, the notion of a “100 year flood” did not have a universally understood definition.

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