Comments on: Things to Remember About the Stimulus http://cstpr.colorado.edu/prometheus/?p=4942 Wed, 29 Jul 2009 22:36:51 -0600 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.9.1 hourly 1 By: stan http://cstpr.colorado.edu/prometheus/?p=4942&cpage=1#comment-12063 stan Mon, 09 Feb 2009 14:58:02 +0000 http://sciencepolicy.colorado.edu/prometheus/?p=4942#comment-12063 Science spending is not stimulus. It shouldn't be in this bill. Of course, 99% of what is in the bill isn't stimulus and shouldn't be in the bill. As Rahm Emmanuel noted, they have a crisis and they intend to exploit it to the max to spend money they could never spend without the cover of a crisis. Science spending is not stimulus. It shouldn’t be in this bill. Of course, 99% of what is in the bill isn’t stimulus and shouldn’t be in the bill. As Rahm Emmanuel noted, they have a crisis and they intend to exploit it to the max to spend money they could never spend without the cover of a crisis.

]]> By: RickM http://cstpr.colorado.edu/prometheus/?p=4942&cpage=1#comment-12046 RickM Mon, 09 Feb 2009 04:09:48 +0000 http://sciencepolicy.colorado.edu/prometheus/?p=4942#comment-12046 I'm not sure I agree with your characterization that some people have confused the "Stimulus" with the budget. I think the process (that word is a vast overstatement of what they have done) the Congress has embarked on is extremely confusing as they are mixing supplementary items, and other line items that rightly belong in the normal budegtary process. This in itself is wasteful. The federal funding process for individual entities is wasteful as well, and their is little true discipline in it. If you've ever witnessed the spending spree that occurs within every federal agency near the end of every fiscal year, you'll understand how corrupt it truly is. I’m not sure I agree with your characterization that some people have confused the “Stimulus” with the budget. I think the process (that word is a vast overstatement of what they have done) the Congress has embarked on is extremely confusing as they are mixing supplementary items, and other line items that rightly belong in the normal budegtary process. This in itself is wasteful.

The federal funding process for individual entities is wasteful as well, and their is little true discipline in it. If you’ve ever witnessed the spending spree that occurs within every federal agency near the end of every fiscal year, you’ll understand how corrupt it truly is.

]]> By: docpine http://cstpr.colorado.edu/prometheus/?p=4942&cpage=1#comment-12045 docpine Mon, 09 Feb 2009 03:53:46 +0000 http://sciencepolicy.colorado.edu/prometheus/?p=4942#comment-12045 My read on Anne is that she means that there is not much push on the blogosphere for scientific institutions to clean up their act to become "leaner stronger and maximally effective". So far the scientific interests seem to be "feed more bucks to the institutions as they are or you are bad and anti-science- we don't need to change". This is what I call the "baby bird school of science funding." In other words, our beaks are open and we're squeaking.. that's all you need to know.. Mom. My read on Anne is that she means that there is not much push on the blogosphere for scientific institutions to clean up their act to become “leaner stronger and maximally effective”. So far the scientific interests seem to be “feed more bucks to the institutions as they are or you are bad and anti-science- we don’t need to change”. This is what I call the “baby bird school of science funding.” In other words, our beaks are open and we’re squeaking.. that’s all you need to know.. Mom.

]]> By: David Bruggeman http://cstpr.colorado.edu/prometheus/?p=4942&cpage=1#comment-12041 David Bruggeman Mon, 09 Feb 2009 03:30:28 +0000 http://sciencepolicy.colorado.edu/prometheus/?p=4942#comment-12041 Anne, Could you clarify for me what you mean by "my position is not very popular in the blogosphere"? Taken one way, it suggests the blogosphere is very anti- your institutional interests. My experience, however, suggests the blogosphere (and science advocates) aren't terribly focused on those interests. Anne,

Could you clarify for me what you mean by “my position is not very popular in the blogosphere”? Taken one way, it suggests the blogosphere is very anti- your institutional interests. My experience, however, suggests the blogosphere (and science advocates) aren’t terribly focused on those interests.

]]> By: Anne http://cstpr.colorado.edu/prometheus/?p=4942&cpage=1#comment-12038 Anne Mon, 09 Feb 2009 02:16:58 +0000 http://sciencepolicy.colorado.edu/prometheus/?p=4942#comment-12038 Thanks for posting this. I was taken by surprise by the reactions of liberal friends too, who lamented the "cutting" of funds from "chronically underfunded" environmental programs. I think the news reports were partly to blame, as the original bill is pretty enormous and complicated, but the "cuts" were easier to publish in bullet lists over the weekend. I'm eager to see scientists enact the very same inventories that households are having to make these days, to root out any waste and become prepared to lobby Congress with organized, thoughtful priority lists. I want to see this because I root for science, and I want to see scientists organize, and I want to see our scientific institutions become leaner, stronger and maximally effective. So far my position is not very popular in the blogosphere. Thanks for posting this. I was taken by surprise by the reactions of liberal friends too, who lamented the “cutting” of funds from “chronically underfunded” environmental programs. I think the news reports were partly to blame, as the original bill is pretty enormous and complicated, but the “cuts” were easier to publish in bullet lists over the weekend. I’m eager to see scientists enact the very same inventories that households are having to make these days, to root out any waste and become prepared to lobby Congress with organized, thoughtful priority lists. I want to see this because I root for science, and I want to see scientists organize, and I want to see our scientific institutions become leaner, stronger and maximally effective. So far my position is not very popular in the blogosphere.

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