Comments on: IPCC Teams Up with WorldWatch to Attack Obama http://cstpr.colorado.edu/prometheus/?p=4888 Wed, 29 Jul 2009 22:36:51 -0600 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.9.1 hourly 1 By: bverheggen http://cstpr.colorado.edu/prometheus/?p=4888&cpage=1#comment-11624 bverheggen Thu, 22 Jan 2009 09:28:15 +0000 http://sciencepolicy.colorado.edu/prometheus/?p=4888#comment-11624 Roger, In the quote above I read Pachauri making suggestions on the goal, which I think is perfectly fine; he didn't make specific policy suggestions about the form of policy (as in, 'you should install this many windturbines in PA'). Bart Roger,

In the quote above I read Pachauri making suggestions on the goal, which I think is perfectly fine; he didn’t make specific policy suggestions about the form of policy (as in, ‘you should install this many windturbines in PA’).

Bart

]]> By: Roger Pielke, Jr. http://cstpr.colorado.edu/prometheus/?p=4888&cpage=1#comment-11613 Roger Pielke, Jr. Wed, 21 Jan 2009 08:50:56 +0000 http://sciencepolicy.colorado.edu/prometheus/?p=4888#comment-11613 bverheggen- By taking issue with Obama's targets Pachauri is making a very specific policy suggestion, about the form of policy and its goal. Your analogy to a medical scientist is a very good one, but medical experts play very different roles in different contexts. If the IPCC wants to be an advocacy group, then it should not advertise itself as "policy neutral". bverheggen-

By taking issue with Obama’s targets Pachauri is making a very specific policy suggestion, about the form of policy and its goal.

Your analogy to a medical scientist is a very good one, but medical experts play very different roles in different contexts. If the IPCC wants to be an advocacy group, then it should not advertise itself as “policy neutral”.

]]> By: bverheggen http://cstpr.colorado.edu/prometheus/?p=4888&cpage=1#comment-11612 bverheggen Wed, 21 Jan 2009 08:39:20 +0000 http://sciencepolicy.colorado.edu/prometheus/?p=4888#comment-11612 If he's not making a specific policy suggestion, but merely sais that the problem needs to be addressed more vigorously, than what's the big deal? If a medical scientist finds that there is a serious side effect to a certain medicine or treatment, isn't it his or her responsibility to communicate to society that its use should be diminished/abolished? Sure, at that point he or she is taking the role of moral individual rather than archetypical 'objective' scientist, but perhaps that's all for the better. If he’s not making a specific policy suggestion, but merely sais that the problem needs to be addressed more vigorously, than what’s the big deal?

If a medical scientist finds that there is a serious side effect to a certain medicine or treatment, isn’t it his or her responsibility to communicate to society that its use should be diminished/abolished? Sure, at that point he or she is taking the role of moral individual rather than archetypical ‘objective’ scientist, but perhaps that’s all for the better.

]]> By: Paul Biggs http://cstpr.colorado.edu/prometheus/?p=4888&cpage=1#comment-11592 Paul Biggs Mon, 19 Jan 2009 18:04:56 +0000 http://sciencepolicy.colorado.edu/prometheus/?p=4888#comment-11592 Pachauri talks an awful lot of rubbish, so I wish he'd shut up along with '4 years to save the world' Hansen. The fact is that CO2 can't be legislated away and ultimately the public won't accept social engineering, restrictive laws, or high taxes in the dubious name of climate control. Technology is the answer to a question we didn't really need to ask just yet. Pachauri talks an awful lot of rubbish, so I wish he’d shut up along with ‘4 years to save the world’ Hansen. The fact is that CO2 can’t be legislated away and ultimately the public won’t accept social engineering, restrictive laws, or high taxes in the dubious name of climate control. Technology is the answer to a question we didn’t really need to ask just yet.

]]> By: jae http://cstpr.colorado.edu/prometheus/?p=4888&cpage=1#comment-11591 jae Mon, 19 Jan 2009 17:55:44 +0000 http://sciencepolicy.colorado.edu/prometheus/?p=4888#comment-11591 LOL. I hope IPCC and the environmental-wackos keep pushing and repeating their ridiculous "death of the planet" nonsense. Maybe it will finally make Obama and some other leftists suspicious (deep-down they have to be, anyway). These "saviors of the planet" dont' seem to notice (or more importantly, don't seem to care) about humanity and the current devastating economic crisis. They just want to kick the wounded humans, as usual! All based on the completely undemonstrated presumption that it will do some good for the Planet (just like all the unrealized scares of the past). The only positive thing I can say about the current economic crisis is that many more eyes will be watching Obama and these IPCC-type socialistic charlatans. Even Joe six-pack, perhaps. It's my guess that Obama and his socialistic friends don't DARE do much about the impending end of the Earth, caused by CO2, at least until the economy improves. If they were people of true grit and principle, then maybe they would try, but alas, they are clearly just politicians trying to get re-elected. LOL. I hope IPCC and the environmental-wackos keep pushing and repeating their ridiculous “death of the planet” nonsense. Maybe it will finally make Obama and some other leftists suspicious (deep-down they have to be, anyway). These “saviors of the planet” dont’ seem to notice (or more importantly, don’t seem to care) about humanity and the current devastating economic crisis. They just want to kick the wounded humans, as usual! All based on the completely undemonstrated presumption that it will do some good for the Planet (just like all the unrealized scares of the past). The only positive thing I can say about the current economic crisis is that many more eyes will be watching Obama and these IPCC-type socialistic charlatans. Even Joe six-pack, perhaps.

It’s my guess that Obama and his socialistic friends don’t DARE do much about the impending end of the Earth, caused by CO2, at least until the economy improves. If they were people of true grit and principle, then maybe they would try, but alas, they are clearly just politicians trying to get re-elected.

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