Comments on: Lies Posing as History http://cstpr.colorado.edu/prometheus/?p=4709 Wed, 29 Jul 2009 22:36:51 -0600 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.9.1 hourly 1 By: NicolasNierenberg http://cstpr.colorado.edu/prometheus/?p=4709&cpage=1#comment-11285 NicolasNierenberg Mon, 17 Nov 2008 06:54:28 +0000 http://sciencepolicy.colorado.edu/prometheus/?p=4709#comment-11285 Dr. Pielke, I think Dr. Lahson's paper was fine, but seemed to be mostly her speculation tied together by some facts. Dr. Oreskes' paper trying to tie the cold war to global warming skepticism was much worse as it was almost entirely speculation on motives. As to the 1983 report, while the specific policy recommendations were "run of the mill" the report itself was not. It was the first to make fairly accurate projections of CO2 growth. It was the first to look at greenhouse gases beyond CO2. It was the first to make some accurate sea level rise projections etc. As far as I know it was in fact the first comprehensive look at the issues. Nicolas Nierenberg Dr. Pielke,

I think Dr. Lahson’s paper was fine, but seemed to be mostly her speculation tied together by some facts. Dr. Oreskes’ paper trying to tie the cold war to global warming skepticism was much worse as it was almost entirely speculation on motives.

As to the 1983 report, while the specific policy recommendations were “run of the mill” the report itself was not. It was the first to make fairly accurate projections of CO2 growth. It was the first to look at greenhouse gases beyond CO2. It was the first to make some accurate sea level rise projections etc. As far as I know it was in fact the first comprehensive look at the issues.

Nicolas Nierenberg

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By: Prayer to God: on the Climate Debate… « The Unbearable Nakedness of CLIMATE CHANGE http://cstpr.colorado.edu/prometheus/?p=4709&cpage=1#comment-11265 Prayer to God: on the Climate Debate… « The Unbearable Nakedness of CLIMATE CHANGE Thu, 13 Nov 2008 16:53:56 +0000 http://sciencepolicy.colorado.edu/prometheus/?p=4709#comment-11265 [...] Roger Pielke, Jr. wrote a few days ago: What is it about the climate change debate that causes previously excellent scholars to go absolutely insane and disregard all standards of [...] [...] Roger Pielke, Jr. wrote a few days ago: What is it about the climate change debate that causes previously excellent scholars to go absolutely insane and disregard all standards of [...]

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By: TonyN http://cstpr.colorado.edu/prometheus/?p=4709&cpage=1#comment-11245 TonyN Mon, 10 Nov 2008 11:21:17 +0000 http://sciencepolicy.colorado.edu/prometheus/?p=4709#comment-11245 Government reports are susceptible to tampering from both sides of the debate. See particularly the third / fourth paragraph here: http://www.sgr.org.uk/climate/StormyTimes_NL28.htm This refers to events a decade on from the Neirenberg report. The author is a senior scientist at the University of East Anglia's Climate Research Unit. Government reports are susceptible to tampering from both sides of the debate. See particularly the third / fourth paragraph here:

http://www.sgr.org.uk/climate/StormyTimes_NL28.htm

This refers to events a decade on from the Neirenberg report. The author is a senior scientist at the University of East Anglia’s Climate Research Unit.

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