Comments on: John Marburger on Science Policy Research http://cstpr.colorado.edu/prometheus/?p=3485 Wed, 29 Jul 2009 22:36:51 -0600 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.9.1 hourly 1 By: David Bruggeman http://cstpr.colorado.edu/prometheus/?p=3485&cpage=1#comment-1098 David Bruggeman Wed, 08 Jun 2005 18:40:05 +0000 http://sciencepolicy.colorado.edu/prometheusreborn/?p=3485#comment-1098 A few additional thoughts on Marburger's comments (both in Science and at the AAAS Forum): In his discussions, he's seeking (among other things) improvement in the data collection and analysis done with respect to science and technology policy and science and technology activity. While all of the programs mentioned in this discussion conduct some kind of work in this area, it seems relatively specialized, or even piecemeal. While specialization is a fact of academic life, the absence of definition or coherence of STPR at a more general level makes it pretty inadequate in informing policy in the way or at the level Marburger describes. A secondary impact of this is that educating or training a next generation of scholars and practitioners in STPR as much of a hodgepodge as the literature we have to work with. Employment in the field, whether academic or not, doesn't privilege general STPR education, so the labor market provides no incentive to change this. I think more general level scholarship is out there (Brooks, Mokyr and Hounshell come to mind), but as your grad students noted, it has not been put together into some common work, and their is no professional or academic organization interested in correcting this. Isis did some good survey work several years ago, but that is sadly an exception. However, none of this really addresses converting STPR research into the new models and information Marburger talks about. But we should probably build some capacity before trying to transfer knowledge. A final thought - while I don't know a lot of SPRU in Sussex, it might be worth investigating as an entity that can produce the kind of information Marburger would like, if it were in the U.S. A few additional thoughts on Marburger’s comments (both in Science and at the AAAS Forum):

In his discussions, he’s seeking (among other things) improvement in the data collection and analysis done with respect to science and technology policy and science and technology activity.

While all of the programs mentioned in this discussion conduct some kind of work in this area, it seems relatively specialized, or even piecemeal. While specialization is a fact of academic life, the absence of definition or coherence of STPR at a more general level makes it pretty inadequate in informing policy in the way or at the level Marburger describes.

A secondary impact of this is that educating or training a next generation of scholars and practitioners in STPR as much of a hodgepodge as the literature we have to work with. Employment in the field, whether academic or not, doesn’t privilege general STPR education, so the labor market provides no incentive to change this.

I think more general level scholarship is out there (Brooks, Mokyr and Hounshell come to mind), but as your grad students noted, it has not been put together into some common work, and their is no professional or academic organization interested in correcting this. Isis did some good survey work several years ago, but that is sadly an exception.

However, none of this really addresses converting STPR research into the new models and information Marburger talks about. But we should probably build some capacity before trying to transfer knowledge.

A final thought – while I don’t know a lot of SPRU in Sussex, it might be worth investigating as an entity that can produce the kind of information Marburger would like, if it were in the U.S.

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By: Roger Pielke, Jr. http://cstpr.colorado.edu/prometheus/?p=3485&cpage=1#comment-1097 Roger Pielke, Jr. Mon, 30 May 2005 12:27:43 +0000 http://sciencepolicy.colorado.edu/prometheusreborn/?p=3485#comment-1097 Hi David- Thanks for your comment. I am aware of a number of groups who have focused on technology policy research (which I'd claim is different than technology policy per se). Most notable I think are the Harvard, MIT and CMU programs. And surely there are other excellent programs out there that I am unaware of, in the US and Europe and perhaps elsewhere. CSPO does more technology policy research than we do, though we are working to further develop that capacity. A few of our grad students (who you probably know) have observed that in S&T policy research there is nothing really comparable to the "Handbook of STS" developed by Sheila Jasanoff and others. Similarly there is no real professional association (formal or informal) for people who do STPR, as there is for STS (e.g., 4S). When John Marburger calls for more "science of science policy" (which I'd call science and technology policy research) as the president's science advisor, then I think that this suggests that there is an unmet need among policy makers for STPR. I would welcome other peoples thoughts on this as well. Hi David- Thanks for your comment. I am aware of a number of groups who have focused on technology policy research (which I’d claim is different than technology policy per se). Most notable I think are the Harvard, MIT and CMU programs. And surely there are other excellent programs out there that I am unaware of, in the US and Europe and perhaps elsewhere. CSPO does more technology policy research than we do, though we are working to further develop that capacity. A few of our grad students (who you probably know) have observed that in S&T policy research there is nothing really comparable to the “Handbook of STS” developed by Sheila Jasanoff and others. Similarly there is no real professional association (formal or informal) for people who do STPR, as there is for STS (e.g., 4S). When John Marburger calls for more “science of science policy” (which I’d call science and technology policy research) as the president’s science advisor, then I think that this suggests that there is an unmet need among policy makers for STPR. I would welcome other peoples thoughts on this as well.

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By: David Bruggeman http://cstpr.colorado.edu/prometheus/?p=3485&cpage=1#comment-1096 David Bruggeman Thu, 26 May 2005 21:17:00 +0000 http://sciencepolicy.colorado.edu/prometheusreborn/?p=3485#comment-1096 Roger, Who, if anyone, would you say is doing something comparable to CSPO and your center with respect to technology policy, or even some combination of the two? Unless technology is assumed in all the mentions of science policy, which might make my question moot. Roger,

Who, if anyone, would you say is doing something comparable to CSPO and your center with respect to technology policy, or even some combination of the two?

Unless technology is assumed in all the mentions of science policy, which might make my question moot.

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