Comments on: Presidential Engagement with Science and Technology http://cstpr.colorado.edu/prometheus/?p=4956 Wed, 29 Jul 2009 22:36:51 -0600 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.9.1 hourly 1 By: What Do Michael Jackson and Abraham Lincoln Have in Common? « Pasco Phronesis http://cstpr.colorado.edu/prometheus/?p=4956&cpage=1#comment-14164 What Do Michael Jackson and Abraham Lincoln Have in Common? « Pasco Phronesis Sat, 27 Jun 2009 23:58:25 +0000 http://sciencepolicy.colorado.edu/prometheus/?p=4956#comment-14164 [...] by David Bruggeman on June 27, 2009 Both men held patents.  You can read about Lincoln’s patent to help lift riverboats off shoals from an earlier [...] [...] by David Bruggeman on June 27, 2009 Both men held patents.  You can read about Lincoln’s patent to help lift riverboats off shoals from an earlier [...]

]]> By: Martin Farley http://cstpr.colorado.edu/prometheus/?p=4956&cpage=1#comment-12262 Martin Farley Sun, 15 Feb 2009 21:56:57 +0000 http://sciencepolicy.colorado.edu/prometheus/?p=4956#comment-12262 It probably doesn't pay to worry about occupational background in the 19th century, especially the first half when Lincoln was growing up. Formal education in a field isn't necessary to get a patent, even one that is effective. James Eads had no formal engineering education but his bridge hasn't fallen down yet and his approach to keeping the Mississippi's mouth open to navigation is still in use. He also acquired about 50 patents. It probably doesn’t pay to worry about occupational background in the 19th century, especially the first half when Lincoln was growing up.

Formal education in a field isn’t necessary to get a patent, even one that is effective.

James Eads had no formal engineering education but his bridge hasn’t fallen down yet and his approach to keeping the Mississippi’s mouth open to navigation is still in use. He also acquired about 50 patents.

]]> By: stan http://cstpr.colorado.edu/prometheus/?p=4956&cpage=1#comment-12186 stan Fri, 13 Feb 2009 13:36:38 +0000 http://sciencepolicy.colorado.edu/prometheus/?p=4956#comment-12186 Lincoln was a lawyer. Lincoln was a lawyer.

]]> By: David Bruggeman http://cstpr.colorado.edu/prometheus/?p=4956&cpage=1#comment-12176 David Bruggeman Fri, 13 Feb 2009 07:09:02 +0000 http://sciencepolicy.colorado.edu/prometheus/?p=4956#comment-12176 To confound the issue, Lincoln's formal education is nearly non-existent. I do not know if he could have been certified as an engineer under the requirements of the mid 19th century. Arguably he practiced engineering but was not a member of the profession. There's also an open question whether or not his invention was effective, because it was never built full size. We only have the patent model (once required for all patents). To confound the issue, Lincoln’s formal education is nearly non-existent. I do not know if he could have been certified as an engineer under the requirements of the mid 19th century. Arguably he practiced engineering but was not a member of the profession.

There’s also an open question whether or not his invention was effective, because it was never built full size. We only have the patent model (once required for all patents).

]]> By: bend http://cstpr.colorado.edu/prometheus/?p=4956&cpage=1#comment-12175 bend Fri, 13 Feb 2009 06:04:25 +0000 http://sciencepolicy.colorado.edu/prometheus/?p=4956#comment-12175 With Hoover and Carter ascending to the office from their discipline, I've always felt that engineers made bad presidents. Now, with the knowledge of Lincoln's patent, it would seem that he has redeemed the profession somewhat. With Hoover and Carter ascending to the office from their discipline, I’ve always felt that engineers made bad presidents. Now, with the knowledge of Lincoln’s patent, it would seem that he has redeemed the profession somewhat.

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