Comments on: University Polices on Academic Earmarks http://cstpr.colorado.edu/prometheus/?p=3486 Wed, 29 Jul 2009 22:36:51 -0600 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.9.1 hourly 1 By: Roger Pielke, Jr. http://cstpr.colorado.edu/prometheus/?p=3486&cpage=1#comment-1103 Roger Pielke, Jr. Mon, 06 Jun 2005 12:06:31 +0000 http://sciencepolicy.colorado.edu/prometheusreborn/?p=3486#comment-1103 Hi Eli- Thanks for the comment. But do note that the policy I am recommending is for the University of Colorado only, it is not a blanket call for a ban on earmarking. EPSCOR is a form of "institutionalized earmarking", or "capacity buliding" if you like, for which universities like Colorado are ineligible, and properly so. I don't know a whole lot about EPSCOR, but it seems to me like a good approach to developing expertise. Hi Eli- Thanks for the comment. But do note that the policy I am recommending is for the University of Colorado only, it is not a blanket call for a ban on earmarking. EPSCOR is a form of “institutionalized earmarking”, or “capacity buliding” if you like, for which universities like Colorado are ineligible, and properly so. I don’t know a whole lot about EPSCOR, but it seems to me like a good approach to developing expertise.

]]> By: Rabett http://cstpr.colorado.edu/prometheus/?p=3486&cpage=1#comment-1102 Rabett Mon, 06 Jun 2005 01:22:51 +0000 http://sciencepolicy.colorado.edu/prometheusreborn/?p=3486#comment-1102 Sorry about identifying UC Boulder as a land grant institution. OTOH, the state did buy/reserve the land which is worth quite a bit (much thanks to UC Boulder), but the state did build many of the buildings, etc., which is a good illustration of why chicken egg problems are hard to tear apart. More interesting to me is my perception that those most against set asides got theirs earlier. For example, what is the value of Lawrence Berkeley Lab to UC Berkeley? The politics associated with siting various DOD/DOE/NASA/NOAA/NIST labs various places was ferocious. The continuing flow of resources to the associated universities is enormous. On the other side, what do you think of EPSCOR Sorry about identifying UC Boulder as a land grant institution. OTOH, the state did buy/reserve the land which is worth quite a bit (much thanks to UC Boulder), but the state did build many of the buildings, etc., which is a good illustration of why chicken egg problems are hard to tear apart.

More interesting to me is my perception that those most against set asides got theirs earlier. For example, what is the value of Lawrence Berkeley Lab to UC Berkeley? The politics associated with siting various DOD/DOE/NASA/NOAA/NIST labs various places was ferocious. The continuing flow of resources to the associated universities is enormous.

On the other side, what do you think of EPSCOR

]]> By: Roger Pielke, Jr. http://cstpr.colorado.edu/prometheus/?p=3486&cpage=1#comment-1101 Roger Pielke, Jr. Fri, 03 Jun 2005 03:45:02 +0000 http://sciencepolicy.colorado.edu/prometheusreborn/?p=3486#comment-1101 Hi Eli- Thanks for your comment. Two quick corrections. First, less than 10% of the University of Colorado's budget comes from the state. Second, CSU up the road in Fort Collins is the state's land grant university. But the spirit of you comment I agree with -- Colorado gets so much money from the federal government through competitive programs that it should be an easy call to give up earmarks (which obviously won't be the case everywhere), which are a very small addition to the total in any case. Hi Eli- Thanks for your comment. Two quick corrections. First, less than 10% of the University of Colorado’s budget comes from the state. Second, CSU up the road in Fort Collins is the state’s land grant university. But the spirit of you comment I agree with — Colorado gets so much money from the federal government through competitive programs that it should be an easy call to give up earmarks (which obviously won’t be the case everywhere), which are a very small addition to the total in any case.

]]> By: Eli Rabett http://cstpr.colorado.edu/prometheus/?p=3486&cpage=1#comment-1100 Eli Rabett Fri, 03 Jun 2005 02:47:04 +0000 http://sciencepolicy.colorado.edu/prometheusreborn/?p=3486#comment-1100 Not that I am a friend of earmarks, but you are at the University of Colorado, most of whose budget comes from the state and which was established as a land grant university. It is wrong only to look at the games played on the federal level today. The place I am at is not without sin either Not that I am a friend of earmarks, but you are at the University of Colorado, most of whose budget comes from the state and which was established as a land grant university. It is wrong only to look at the games played on the federal level today. The place I am at is not without sin either

]]> By: David Bruggeman http://cstpr.colorado.edu/prometheus/?p=3486&cpage=1#comment-1099 David Bruggeman Wed, 01 Jun 2005 16:12:48 +0000 http://sciencepolicy.colorado.edu/prometheusreborn/?p=3486#comment-1099 John Savage's book on earmarks is oddly absent from Krueger's commentary. Funding Science in America: Congress, Universities and the Academic Pork Barrel. Cambridge University Press, 1999. It's a well researched examination of the rise of academic earmarks. Of particular interest to me was the evidence that earmarks did not favor lower-tier institutions. This complements the studies Kreuger mentions regarding universities' lobbying efforts. John Savage’s book on earmarks is oddly absent from Krueger’s commentary.

Funding Science in America: Congress, Universities and the Academic Pork Barrel. Cambridge University Press, 1999.

It’s a well researched examination of the rise of academic earmarks. Of particular interest to me was the evidence that earmarks did not favor lower-tier institutions. This complements the studies Kreuger mentions regarding universities’ lobbying efforts.

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