Comments on: Relative Improvements in CO2 Per GDP http://cstpr.colorado.edu/prometheus/?p=4864 Wed, 29 Jul 2009 22:36:51 -0600 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.9.1 hourly 1 By: Roger Pielke, Jr. http://cstpr.colorado.edu/prometheus/?p=4864&cpage=1#comment-11548 Roger Pielke, Jr. Wed, 14 Jan 2009 16:28:08 +0000 http://sciencepolicy.colorado.edu/prometheus/?p=4864#comment-11548 Thanks, I've received a bunch of requests and additional info via email as well. So in coming days I will post up some replies, starting with discussions of the EU12 and Japan. Thanks, I’ve received a bunch of requests and additional info via email as well. So in coming days I will post up some replies, starting with discussions of the EU12 and Japan.

]]> By: Olympus Mons http://cstpr.colorado.edu/prometheus/?p=4864&cpage=1#comment-11547 Olympus Mons Wed, 14 Jan 2009 14:55:26 +0000 http://sciencepolicy.colorado.edu/prometheus/?p=4864#comment-11547 Hi, would just like to second OLiver's request. thanks Hi, would just like to second OLiver’s request. thanks

]]> By: Oliver http://cstpr.colorado.edu/prometheus/?p=4864&cpage=1#comment-11545 Oliver Wed, 14 Jan 2009 14:29:04 +0000 http://sciencepolicy.colorado.edu/prometheus/?p=4864#comment-11545 If you're offering: UK (to see "dash for gas", if any), France (to see if there's an effect as the nuclear build up saturates) and EU12, EU25 and India, just because... If you’re offering: UK (to see “dash for gas”, if any), France (to see if there’s an effect as the nuclear build up saturates) and EU12, EU25 and India, just because…

]]> By: Umlud http://cstpr.colorado.edu/prometheus/?p=4864&cpage=1#comment-11543 Umlud Wed, 14 Jan 2009 12:43:50 +0000 http://sciencepolicy.colorado.edu/prometheus/?p=4864#comment-11543 I have a major problem with this dataset. I understand that it looks at efficiency, but economic efficiency is (imho) a terrible way of looking at the issue. I wrote about this on my blog a year-and-a-half ago (see URL at the end of my post). My biggest beef with this way of looking at the world is that it doesn't tackle one of the largest problems of CO2 emissions: pro-growth economic strategies. So long as GDP grows faster than CO2 emission, then you get a negative slope. If your economy's GDP has a significant portion of its economy in the financial sector (generally low CO2-producing, high GDP-producing) then it will "subsidize" the effect of "less efficient" sectors. Furthermore, GDP is a horrible denominator for several reasons: it is not a standardizable measurement, it doesn't include certain externalities (such as CO2 costs), can be inflated due to international investments, not linked closely to natural resource use, etc. Of course, if people think I'm wrong, please let me know. http://umlud.blogspot.com/2007/06/from-guardian-unlimited-china-overtakes_20.html I have a major problem with this dataset. I understand that it looks at efficiency, but economic efficiency is (imho) a terrible way of looking at the issue.

I wrote about this on my blog a year-and-a-half ago (see URL at the end of my post). My biggest beef with this way of looking at the world is that it doesn’t tackle one of the largest problems of CO2 emissions: pro-growth economic strategies.

So long as GDP grows faster than CO2 emission, then you get a negative slope. If your economy’s GDP has a significant portion of its economy in the financial sector (generally low CO2-producing, high GDP-producing) then it will “subsidize” the effect of “less efficient” sectors.

Furthermore, GDP is a horrible denominator for several reasons: it is not a standardizable measurement, it doesn’t include certain externalities (such as CO2 costs), can be inflated due to international investments, not linked closely to natural resource use, etc.

Of course, if people think I’m wrong, please let me know.

http://umlud.blogspot.com/2007/06/from-guardian-unlimited-china-overtakes_20.html

]]> By: Raven http://cstpr.colorado.edu/prometheus/?p=4864&cpage=1#comment-11542 Raven Wed, 14 Jan 2009 00:18:39 +0000 http://sciencepolicy.colorado.edu/prometheus/?p=4864#comment-11542 The oil shock in 70s resulted in many policy changes in Japan which are only starting to be imposed in NA and the EU (i.e. mandating flourescent lighting, heavy investment in nuclear power, etc). It is reasonable to assume that NA and the EU will hit a similar wall once the easy stuff is taken care off. The oil shock in 70s resulted in many policy changes in Japan which are only starting to be imposed in NA and the EU (i.e. mandating flourescent lighting, heavy investment in nuclear power, etc).

It is reasonable to assume that NA and the EU will hit a similar wall once the easy stuff is taken care off.

]]> By: jae http://cstpr.colorado.edu/prometheus/?p=4864&cpage=1#comment-11541 jae Tue, 13 Jan 2009 18:40:16 +0000 http://sciencepolicy.colorado.edu/prometheus/?p=4864#comment-11541 Does the rest of Europe track Germany? Does the rest of Europe track Germany?

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