Comments on: More Info – Thanks Gavin! http://cstpr.colorado.edu/prometheus/?p=3732 Wed, 29 Jul 2009 22:36:51 -0600 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.9.1 hourly 1 By: Rabett http://cstpr.colorado.edu/prometheus/?p=3732&cpage=1#comment-3068 Rabett Wed, 15 Feb 2006 03:08:28 +0000 http://sciencepolicy.colorado.edu/prometheusreborn/?p=3732#comment-3068 For official NASA policy on Roger's last comment see... http://www.nasawatch.com/archives/2006/02/the_risk_of_not.html#more :) For official NASA policy on Roger’s last comment see…

http://www.nasawatch.com/archives/2006/02/the_risk_of_not.html#more
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By: Roger Pielke, Jr. http://cstpr.colorado.edu/prometheus/?p=3732&cpage=1#comment-3067 Roger Pielke, Jr. Tue, 14 Feb 2006 04:54:20 +0000 http://sciencepolicy.colorado.edu/prometheusreborn/?p=3732#comment-3067 Even more info: "n Griffin's first public comments about the controversy since authoring a "Statement on Scientific Openness" sent to agency personnel and later posted to the NASA Web site, he reaffirmed his commitment to free discourse but also talked about the importance of maintaining clear distinctions between factual observations and policy recommendations. "Nothing is more important to this agency or to me than a free and open discourse on technical subjects," Griffin said during a question-and-answer session following his National Space Club speech. "Now there is a line where technical subjects cross over into policy recommendations. ... Some folks don't wish to observe that line. And if they don't, as long as people speak as private citizens, my attitude is let me hold your coat for you. You can get into that fray and get beat up. You just can't label it as an agency position." Griffin went on to say that NASA's policies governing what its scientists and engineers can or cannot say "have admittedly not been clear." "So before we can expect people to adhere to standards we wish to have as a federal agency, we've got to re-look at those standards," Griffin said. "We've got to say what it is we want to say in a clear and consistent fashion and then we can have a close to it."" http://news.yahoo.com/s/space/20060213/sc_space/nasarevisingpublicaffairspolicies Even more info:

“n Griffin’s first public comments about the controversy since authoring a “Statement on Scientific Openness” sent to agency personnel and later posted to the NASA Web site, he reaffirmed his commitment to free discourse but also talked about the importance of maintaining clear distinctions between factual observations and policy recommendations.

“Nothing is more important to this agency or to me than a free and open discourse on technical subjects,” Griffin said during a question-and-answer session following his National Space Club speech. “Now there is a line where technical subjects cross over into policy recommendations. … Some folks don’t wish to observe that line. And if they don’t, as long as people speak as private citizens, my attitude is let me hold your coat for you. You can get into that fray and get beat up. You just can’t label it as an agency position.”

Griffin went on to say that NASA’s policies governing what its scientists and engineers can or cannot say “have admittedly not been clear.”

“So before we can expect people to adhere to standards we wish to have as a federal agency, we’ve got to re-look at those standards,” Griffin said. “We’ve got to say what it is we want to say in a clear and consistent fashion and then we can have a close to it.”"

http://news.yahoo.com/s/space/20060213/sc_space/nasarevisingpublicaffairspolicies

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By: Roger Pielke, Jr. http://cstpr.colorado.edu/prometheus/?p=3732&cpage=1#comment-3066 Roger Pielke, Jr. Mon, 13 Feb 2006 15:06:41 +0000 http://sciencepolicy.colorado.edu/prometheusreborn/?p=3732#comment-3066 More details here: http://www.orlandosentinel.com/news/custom/space/orl-nasapolitics1206feb12,0,483151.story?coll=orl-news-headlines-space More details here:

http://www.orlandosentinel.com/news/custom/space/orl-nasapolitics1206feb12,0,483151.story?coll=orl-news-headlines-space

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By: Roger Pielke Jr. http://cstpr.colorado.edu/prometheus/?p=3732&cpage=1#comment-3065 Roger Pielke Jr. Sun, 12 Feb 2006 21:42:06 +0000 http://sciencepolicy.colorado.edu/prometheusreborn/?p=3732#comment-3065 Gavin- I would just point out that doing research _is_ implementing a government policy. And for the Bush Administration research has been a substitute for other types of policies. And I'd bet that the Bush Administration's perspective is/was that if they don't let you talk about the science it probably won't show up in the news, and people won't be discussing climate change -- hey, they're right! Just talking about the science is political! ;-) Gavin-

I would just point out that doing research _is_ implementing a government policy. And for the Bush Administration research has been a substitute for other types of policies.

And I’d bet that the Bush Administration’s perspective is/was that if they don’t let you talk about the science it probably won’t show up in the news, and people won’t be discussing climate change — hey, they’re right! Just talking about the science is political! ;-)

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