Comments on: A little percolation on energy policy http://cstpr.colorado.edu/prometheus/?p=4215 Wed, 29 Jul 2009 22:36:51 -0600 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.9.1 hourly 1 By: DeWitt Payne http://cstpr.colorado.edu/prometheus/?p=4215&cpage=1#comment-9108 DeWitt Payne Thu, 28 Jun 2007 03:30:26 +0000 http://sciencepolicy.colorado.edu/prometheusreborn/?p=4215#comment-9108 Electricity is also EROI negative. But it's a lot easier to transport and use safely than hydrogen. Electricity is also EROI negative. But it’s a lot easier to transport and use safely than hydrogen.

]]> By: Harry Haymuss http://cstpr.colorado.edu/prometheus/?p=4215&cpage=1#comment-9107 Harry Haymuss Wed, 13 Jun 2007 11:19:09 +0000 http://sciencepolicy.colorado.edu/prometheusreborn/?p=4215#comment-9107 Or, c1) Bush is sincerely interested in the economy and has no intention of condoning yet another leech system on the economy since "Global Warming" seems to have stopped in its tracks, c2) Bush's team is not yet entrenched in said cap and trade broker (aka leech) system. BTW, hydrogen is not a "fuel source" but a highly inefficient energy transport system. It still must be produced elsewhere, and due to the small molecules and high pressures involved it makes no economic sense (in terms of adding value). This does not make corn any more viable, as every ear of corn grown for energy removes one for food (we don't have enough land for both), and the expanding third world needs all the food it can get until it stabilizes its population and stops wasting arable land. Or, c1) Bush is sincerely interested in the economy and has no intention of condoning yet another leech system on the economy since “Global Warming” seems to have stopped in its tracks,

c2) Bush’s team is not yet entrenched in said cap and trade broker (aka leech) system.

BTW, hydrogen is not a “fuel source” but a highly inefficient energy transport system. It still must be produced elsewhere, and due to the small molecules and high pressures involved it makes no economic sense (in terms of adding value). This does not make corn any more viable, as every ear of corn grown for energy removes one for food (we don’t have enough land for both), and the expanding third world needs all the food it can get until it stabilizes its population and stops wasting arable land.

]]> By: jfleck http://cstpr.colorado.edu/prometheus/?p=4215&cpage=1#comment-9106 jfleck Tue, 12 Jun 2007 21:09:30 +0000 http://sciencepolicy.colorado.edu/prometheusreborn/?p=4215#comment-9106 This raises interesting questions, given Bingaman's insistence that he's trying to come up with a bill that has a genuine chance of passing and getting signed - and I take him at his word here, having not found him to be a frivolous legislator. If the President won't sign cap and trade, then game over. But it does look like Bingaman's going to forge ahead: http://tinyurl.com/2dry7x This raises interesting questions, given Bingaman’s insistence that he’s trying to come up with a bill that has a genuine chance of passing and getting signed – and I take him at his word here, having not found him to be a frivolous legislator. If the President won’t sign cap and trade, then game over. But it does look like Bingaman’s going to forge ahead:

http://tinyurl.com/2dry7x

]]> By: Don Thieme http://cstpr.colorado.edu/prometheus/?p=4215&cpage=1#comment-9105 Don Thieme Tue, 12 Jun 2007 10:43:46 +0000 http://sciencepolicy.colorado.edu/prometheusreborn/?p=4215#comment-9105 EROI = Energy Return on Investment? That was a term with which I was not familiar. I am glad to see some activity on this blog, and I had not seen mention elsewhere of Craig Thomas' passing. He did seem like a voice of reason on the big energy side. EROI = Energy Return on Investment?

That was a term with which I was not familiar. I am glad to see some activity on this blog, and I had not seen mention elsewhere of Craig Thomas’ passing. He did seem like a voice of reason on the big energy side.

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