Comments on: Cashing In http://cstpr.colorado.edu/prometheus/?p=4157 Wed, 29 Jul 2009 22:36:51 -0600 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.9.1 hourly 1 By: Michael Jankowski http://cstpr.colorado.edu/prometheus/?p=4157&cpage=1#comment-8661 Michael Jankowski Fri, 30 Mar 2007 19:28:09 +0000 http://sciencepolicy.colorado.edu/prometheusreborn/?p=4157#comment-8661 Yeah, I need to find out if my current home (that I'll be selling in a few months) or my next home (which will almost certainly be demolished before 100 yrs are up, by which time I'll be long dead) could be under water in 100 yrs. Many of the services provided with your payment, such as finding out how close you are to Superfund sites, is available for free elsewhere. It's pretty sad that 54 yr-old Pam Moody and her husband couldn't pull up a simple topo map to identify the impact of the 3, 10, or 20ft sea level rise they were so concerned about over the next 100 yrs. Yeah, I need to find out if my current home (that I’ll be selling in a few months) or my next home (which will almost certainly be demolished before 100 yrs are up, by which time I’ll be long dead) could be under water in 100 yrs.

Many of the services provided with your payment, such as finding out how close you are to Superfund sites, is available for free elsewhere.

It’s pretty sad that 54 yr-old Pam Moody and her husband couldn’t pull up a simple topo map to identify the impact of the 3, 10, or 20ft sea level rise they were so concerned about over the next 100 yrs.

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By: David http://cstpr.colorado.edu/prometheus/?p=4157&cpage=1#comment-8660 David Fri, 30 Mar 2007 15:03:19 +0000 http://sciencepolicy.colorado.edu/prometheusreborn/?p=4157#comment-8660 Good People, there is no limit to the folly of mankind!Look at television which was greeted as the ultimate educational tool. Look what it is teaching today! To the point, education has been politicized, health care has been politicized, and now they have finally done it to the weather!!!!!! And just to cap it off we now have science by consensus!!!!! Good People, there is no limit to the folly of mankind!Look at television which was greeted as the ultimate educational tool. Look what it is teaching today! To the point, education has been politicized, health care has been politicized, and now they have finally done it to the weather!!!!!! And just to cap it off we now have science by consensus!!!!!

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By: Roger Pielke, Jr. http://cstpr.colorado.edu/prometheus/?p=4157&cpage=1#comment-8659 Roger Pielke, Jr. Fri, 30 Mar 2007 13:40:56 +0000 http://sciencepolicy.colorado.edu/prometheusreborn/?p=4157#comment-8659 Thanks Brian S., caveat emptor! Thanks Brian S., caveat emptor!

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By: Brian S. http://cstpr.colorado.edu/prometheus/?p=4157&cpage=1#comment-8658 Brian S. Fri, 30 Mar 2007 06:05:53 +0000 http://sciencepolicy.colorado.edu/prometheusreborn/?p=4157#comment-8658 Another pseudo-trackback: "....Other than pushing the envelope somewhat on sea level rise, I see no validity to the critique of Climate Appraisal. The one good thing from reading the critique, though, is that I now think I'll fork out the $30 to see what results I get at my address." http://backseatdriving.blogspot.com/2007/03/murray-and-rp-jr-getting-overbroad-in.html Another pseudo-trackback:

“….Other than pushing the envelope somewhat on sea level rise, I see no validity to the critique of Climate Appraisal. The one good thing from reading the critique, though, is that I now think I’ll fork out the $30 to see what results I get at my address.”

http://backseatdriving.blogspot.com/2007/03/murray-and-rp-jr-getting-overbroad-in.html

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By: Roger Pielke, Jr. http://cstpr.colorado.edu/prometheus/?p=4157&cpage=1#comment-8657 Roger Pielke, Jr. Fri, 30 Mar 2007 04:59:57 +0000 http://sciencepolicy.colorado.edu/prometheusreborn/?p=4157#comment-8657 Brian S.- Thanks, but I doubt it: "A computerized service that assesses global warming risks and other environmental threats is now available for any address in the contiguous USA. . . Jonathan Overpeck, lead science adviser for the company and head of Arizona's Institute for the Study of Planet Earth, says it uses only models that hit "closer to the mark."" http://www.usatoday.com/weather/climate/2007-03-28-climate-risk_N.htm?csp=34 I wonder which climate models are most accurate 100 years out at the address level? Brian S.- Thanks, but I doubt it:

“A computerized service that assesses global warming risks and other environmental threats is now available for any address in the contiguous USA. . . Jonathan Overpeck, lead science adviser for the company and head of Arizona’s Institute for the Study of Planet Earth, says it uses only models that hit “closer to the mark.”"

http://www.usatoday.com/weather/climate/2007-03-28-climate-risk_N.htm?csp=34

I wonder which climate models are most accurate 100 years out at the address level?

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By: Brian S. http://cstpr.colorado.edu/prometheus/?p=4157&cpage=1#comment-8656 Brian S. Fri, 30 Mar 2007 00:13:42 +0000 http://sciencepolicy.colorado.edu/prometheusreborn/?p=4157#comment-8656 I don't think this critique stands. From my quick review of the sample report at the site, the only localized, climate-prediction related aspect is for a range of potential temperature changes, which is roughly within current scientific capability. Other aspects like a range sea-level changes are derived from global effects. Making claims about changing storm frequency or precip levels for a specific site would be a lot harder to do, but they don't appear to be doing that. It also says "Scientist commentary has been excluded in this sample report, but is available with premium report purchase." I suspect they might add some cautionary language in the commentary. I don’t think this critique stands. From my quick review of the sample report at the site, the only localized, climate-prediction related aspect is for a range of potential temperature changes, which is roughly within current scientific capability. Other aspects like a range sea-level changes are derived from global effects.

Making claims about changing storm frequency or precip levels for a specific site would be a lot harder to do, but they don’t appear to be doing that.

It also says “Scientist commentary has been excluded in this sample report, but is available with premium report purchase.” I suspect they might add some cautionary language in the commentary.

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