At least, that’s a mineralogist’s understanding of the issue. Maybe a climate guy can correct me.

You underestimate the UN. They are not salivating after federal monies – unless federal is plural… After whetting their appetite via the Iraqi Oil for Food scam, they’re going global.

And yes, multiple Google searches show Fenton to be around the periphery of the carbon trading scene.

I think that the name creates a lot of confusion. The “scientists” on the website write a lot of absurd things, e.g. they deny that the new report has excluded the previous speculative predictions about a catastrophic sea level rise – and the design looks like these crackpots represent the United Nations which is no good.

But I am afraid that this sequence of events reflects the situation that de facto exists anyway: it’s similar political lobby groups and foundations that are the primary authors of key decisions about the United Nations. The IPCC panel may contain many honest and smart scientists but the conclusions that become important are being invented by people like Mr Moss.

The intent of the site is to follow the conversation around the IPCC report and, where mischaracterizations about the report are made, clearly and directly present the IPCC findings. We stand behind our presentation of the IPCC report findings.

We regret the error.

The UN Foundation is an advocacy organization representing the special interests of its constituent, well constituent in this case.

Every organization or association in the nation, even foreign countries and our own federal states, maintain such lobbying bodies to try and affect their chances during the appropriations contest in congress.

The UN is a special interest like any other panting after federal largesse.

Very worrying.

If, as it appears, the United Nations Foundation has decided to set up this IPCCfacts.org sock-puppet by hiring Fenton Communications, you are probably going to be under assault from more such shell advocacy organization. And I doubt the U.N. Foundation will be the only sugar-daddy sponsoring that site.

Fenton’s purpose is to insulate the funders from the unethical behaviour needed to tear down and defame those who are seen as a threat to the funders agenda. And many a Fenton graduate work directly for, in the old boy/girl network that dominates the foundations, the funders as well.

I know this because I worked at a foundation active in funding such environmentalist sock-puppets for three years. And anytime a particularly nasty piece of wet-work needed to be performed, Fenton was the assassin of choice.

With the rolodexes that Fenton maintains, I strongly doubt the recent Wikipedia and Grist attacks, or Mr. Adam’s visit are unrelated.

Thanks, that is why I linked to the RC explanation of this … it is not clear to me how Fenton and EMS are “associated” or the value of the services provided by EMS to RC. Nor do I much care.

It is an interesting coincidence — when I Googled Fenton I saw this page:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Environmental_Media_Services

. . . and was surprised to see RC listed. I this “associated” is fair enough given all this ambiguity. It is not a big deal.