Michael Griffin on Science in NASA

September 15th, 2006

Posted by: Roger Pielke, Jr.

Here (in PDF) is a refreshingly blunt speech from NASA Administrator Michael Griffin on recent issues of science in NASA. No bureaucratic mombo-jumbo here. Here are some choice excerpts:


On science as a priority:

I have on many occasions heard the accusation that NASA has betrayed the scientific community because, it is said, the Vision for Space Exploration was “sold” as being “affordable”, to be “go as you can pay”. To many scientists, that means very explicitly that Exploration is to be funded after, and only after, all prior science commitments were satisfied. The idea seems to be that, after we’ve done JWST, Europa, SIM, TPF, and every other mission in the pre-VSE NASA budget, then and only then can we embark upon renewed human Exploration of deep space. Well, that is simply not how it works. “Affordable” does not mean that all of Science is of higher priority than anything in Exploration. The programs above were approved in an earlier time, with different budget assumptions for NASA. There have been very significant budget cuts and many unplanned requirements for funding since the Vision for Space Exploration was announced. The impact of those cuts cannot fall to any single entity in NASA’s portfolio. “Go as you can pay” applies to all of NASA, not just to isolated pieces of its portfolio.

On exploration having intrinsic and economic benefits apart from science:

But, as always, there is another view, best and most tersely captured by the President’s Science Advisor, Jack Marburger, in his March ‘06 speech at the AAS Goddard Symposium. Jack noted that the Vision for Space Exploration is fundamentally about bringing the resources of the solar system within the economic sphere of mankind. It is not fundamentally about scientific discovery. To me, Marburger’s statement is precisely right.

So a key point must be made: Exploration without science is not “tourism”. It is far more than that. It is about the expansion of human activity out beyond the Earth. Exactly this point was very recently noted and endorsed by no less than Stephen Hawking, a pure scientist if ever there was one. Hawking joins those, including the Chairman of the NASA Advisory Council, who have long pointed out this basic truth: The history of life on Earth is the history of extinction events, and human expansion into the Solar System is, in the end, fundamentally about the survival of the species. So to me exploration is, in and of itself, equally as noble a human endeavor as is scientific discovery.

On complaints about NASA’s spending priorities:

Finally, there is the issue of control. Many members of the scientific community fully understand that the President and Congress have made decisions about the Shuttle and ISS programs that will not be undone. They understand that the proportion of funding at NASA that goes to SMD is at an historic high, and that they should pocket their gains over the last decade and remain quiet, lest someone notice! They understand that NASA is unlikely to grow in real terms, and that therefore many projects which all of us would like to do earlier, will in fact be done later. They get all of that.

The problem is that these folks do understand these real-world limitations, and in a world with such limitations, they want to be in charge of the distribution of resources. Put bluntly, they want to exercise the inherent authority of government to decide what is being done with the money which is available for science at NASA, but without having to come to Washington, put on a NASA badge, make all the associated sacrifices, and live with the consequences of their decisions, which mostly means that when you decide to do one thing, you are also deciding not to do something else that someone else would like to do, and you have to be publicly accountable for that fact.

On scientists as advisors to NASA:

Some of these external folks really seem to believe that NASA program selection and planning should be vetted through “the community” for approval. It is one thing to say that, broadly, we should be guided by the decadal plans of the NAS, the organization to which Congress looks for strategic advice in such matters. I emphatically support this view, while also being of the belief that sometimes, circumstances change on time scales shorter than a decade, and also that sometimes good advice comes from other directions. But it is another thing entirely to suggest that “the community” has an inherent right to review and modify our annual budget. To me, one of the most disturbing aspects of this practice is that the very same people who stand to benefit from particular distributions of NASA funding would be advising NASA as to what those distributions ought to be.

Let us for a moment consider the situation in the abstract. The market for scientific goods and services, while dominated in the space sciences by the government, is nonetheless a market like any other. So, each year the President and Congress (mostly upon the advice of scientists) determine that the pursuit of certain goals in space and Earth science is in the best interests of the United States. Each year, the Congress approves the purchase, through NASA, of scientific goods and services to that end. As with most markets, there are more parties desiring to provide such products than can be procured, and so a variety of closely supervised competitive procurement mechanisms are employed to determine the successful suppliers of these products. Thus, from a legal, contractual, and managerial perspective, members of the external scientific community are suppliers to NASA, not customers.

My point is that if we were to substitute above any other noun besides “science”, the inherent conflict between the role of the scientific community as a purveyor of products to the government, and its role as the primary source of advice as to which products the government should purchase, would not be tolerated. Yet, the scientific community simply must be involved if we are to set intelligent priorities among the nation’s various scientific goals. The whole process is ethically defensible if, and only if, a proper “arm’s length” separation is maintained between advisors and implementers

On NASA scientists seeking to influence the advisory process:

. . . it was my observation that NASA managers have sometimes used these advisory committees to assist in shaping the direction of our programs to a degree that I find unseemly, in view of the inherent potential for conflicts that I have outlined above, and in a manner tending to reduce responsibility and accountability on the part of NASA officials.

On the distinction between advice and authority:

How many of you present here today, and who are organizational managers at any level, would appreciate external advisors – or even other managers – bypassing you to provide “tactical” advice to those who report to you? Any takers for this approach to organizational governance? And if not, would it make a difference if the staff members and the advisors are “scientists” as opposed to other employees?

Moving on, it has also been alleged that, in reshaping the advisory committee reporting structure, I am “preventing scientists from talking to scientists”. This is also nonsense. As far as I am concerned, anyone can talk to anyone, and probably should! I desperately hope that the staff of NASA’s Science Mission Directorate converses widely and frequently within the community. The NASA scientific staff absolutely must be of the scientific community, and active in it, to be effective in the planning and execution of their work. But the rendering of formal advice from an advisory committee to officials of a Federal agency is hardly “scientists talking to scientists”, nor should it be.
In fact, with regard to scientific advisory committee input to NASA, the real issue is not whether “scientists can talk to scientists”, but whether the Administrator is to be included in the conversation! By requiring formal advice to be debated in and provided through the NAC, the scientific community’s advice to NASA comes to the Administrator and simultaneously to the Science Mission Directorate. Under the prior structure, with numerous committees reporting directly to lower-level organizational managers, the Administrator usually had no direct knowledge as to the advice being provided to the Agency by external groups. This is not a responsible approach to organizational management.

Thus, at this point, I am back to basic organizational management principles. Responsibility and accountability for planning and executing NASA’s science program must rest with NASA’s managers, not the external scientific community. Execution of these responsibilities must be appropriately informed, and to this end we must, and will, make intelligent use of our advisory committee structure. But the final responsibility and accountability for Agency programs can lie nowhere other than with us, the NASA staff.

4 Responses to “Michael Griffin on Science in NASA”

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  1. Lab Lemming Says:

    Hawkings comments are disingenious. Even during the worst extinction event, the Earth is far more habitable than any other known celestial body.

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  3. Markk Says:

    As a non-professional (I don’t get paid by the government or any academic institution) who has had a long term interest in space exploration, who has invested much personal time and money in promoting NASA, helping organize conferences on Space exploration, promoted the creation of the Lunar Prospector project, in one sense I find the talk above refreshing in that it is explicit. It is also a betrayal of everything NASA’s support of science is supposed to be, a disingenuous concatenation of two unrelated things, and a subtle indictment of his governments oversight ability.

    NASA has never been mainly a scientific agency rather, an engineering and development oriented one. The small percentage of NASA budget allocated to space science has probably more oversight per dollar from Congress and outside science groups than any other part of NASA’s budget. Mr.Griffin is essentially saying that without consulting the outside and inside scientific oversight groups the administration is going to redirect this money. Of course it is going to cause an outcry. Whether the government wants to spend it is one thing, whether NASA is the right agency is another, it has been spending the money, it is part of NASA’s charter, and with all the criticism, the “better, faster, cheaper” policy has seen a widening of the types of missions flown, from the WMAP, to gravity probes. Bravo. Is essentially killing these types of programs to focus on what seem to be dead-end manned missions good? The oversight point is important because of the only bogus point made in the discussion – the Administration is manifestly ignoring its own scientific oversight and the NAS priorities. This is not just a re-arrangement, it is a fundamental refocusing of money, for non-scientific purposes.

    NASA’s job has NEVER BEEN AND IS NOT NOW human colonization off planet or the extension of human society and economy off planet, as much as I would like it to be. Its charter as amended says “seek and encourage to the maximum extent possible the fullest commercial use of space” which is a very different thing. NASA’s charter also says this:

    (d) The aeronautical and space activities of the United States shall be conducted so as to contribute materially to one or more of the following objectives:
    (1) The expansion of human knowledge of the Earth and of phenomena in the atmosphere and space;
    (4) The establishment of long-range studies of the potential benefits to be gained from, the opportunities for, and the problems involved in the utilization of aeronautical and space activities for peaceful and scientific purposes;
    (5) The preservation of the role of the United States as a leader in aeronautical and space science and technology and in the application thereof to the conduct of peaceful activities within and outside the atmosphere;

    So while I can understand the policy being done by the administration and I actually like Mr. Griffin for saying it and taking the guff I think the purpose of NASA is being changed and the original goals of NASA are being ignored. That is the prerogative of the administration and congress, but I get to judge as a voter how they are doing against their expressed priorities.

    Over the years NASA has probably on net set back the goal of human economy and presence in space by not supporting and even quashing private initiatives. It actions toward space technology are almost the opposite of how it acts toward Aeronautics, which I have always found odd. The fact that an Administrator supports the goal of (almost from the National Space Society Charter) of expanding the human economy off the Earth is a great thing, except I see no policy initiatives that are actually aimed at doing this. How exactly does the new manned space initiative contribute to this? So Mr Griffin has set up a false alternative. NASA isn’t reprioritizing the expansion of the human economy and presence off planet over science since they are not doing the first.

    Perhaps the argument might be made that the engineering knowledge gained and institutional learning could be said to help the goals given, but since there is very little chance, in my opinion, that NASA will ever be the agency to implement the goal of seriously moving part of human society off the Earth, this knowledge would have to be disseminated. Although NASA is great at promoting spin offs and is astounding at distributing Aeronautical information, I don’t see the effort in the space engineering area, mostly because there are few places to give it. But if NASA is promoting getting off the planet why isn’t it, for example, funding approaches to launchers, with real build offs and alternative strategies? Working like NACA in the 50’s? The new Administration human space proposal does not materially advance the day when self supporting human societies live off the planet and could survive, say, the effects of a catastrophic impact on the earth.

    In conclusion, in ignoring its internal and external scientific advisors, and implementing an expensive policy not materially advancing the administrators stated goals, Mr. Griffin is failing NASA’s charter, is disingenuously saying that his administrations oversight is so bad that actual scientists who have some involvement with the science must not be listened to since they would contaminate the process like contractors setting policy, and is not advancing my lifelong goals of getting human society and economy to become bigger than the Earth and Earth orbit.

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  5. Mark Bahner Says:

    Hi Markk,

    You write, “…and (NASA) is not advancing my lifelong goals of getting human society and economy to become bigger than the Earth and Earth orbit.”

    There are two things that seem to me to be key to these goals:

    1) “Space elevators” can reduce costs to get into earth orbit by many orders of magnitude, and

    2) I simply don’t see any way of maintaining appreciable human settlements (i.e., creating human economies) on the moon, Mars, and potentially even more exotic locales, such as Jupiter’s moons, without nuclear fusion. With nuclear fusion, it is possible to turn even very small amounts of water into absolutely massive amounts of energy.

    I wonder what the total amount of annual NASA funding for these two technologies is? My guess is that even *combined,* it’s less than $1 million per year.

    My understanding is that NASA briefly funding some focus fusion studies (for less than $1 million), but stopped a couple years ago:

    http://focusfusion.org/log/index.php

    MarkB (who read–repeatedly–”You Will Go to the Moon” as a second- and third-grader, but who now thinks that’s unlikely)

    http://www.amazon.com/will-moon-Mae-Blacker-Freeman/dp/0394823400

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  7. Markk Says:

    We have a “disingenuous” eruption in this blog! Look out.

    What policies NASA should be doing are a whole other kettle of fish, balancing political budget issues vs. goals extending over administrations. I do think the Aeronautics part of NASA has furthered general aviation better than space side has furthered General Space travel. I just think technically they should be focussed on “Spin-ups” rather than “Spin-offs” – those technologies we think we might need further on and have a lot of projects like those. Plasma Engines, actual X-Plane spacecraft, more missions like the technology demonstrating ion propulsion mission, etc.