Exchange in BAMS on Climate Impacts Attribution, Part 2

October 26th, 2005

Posted by: Roger Pielke, Jr.

Earlier this week I described an exchange in the October, 2005 Bulletin of the American Meteorological Society (BAMS) on the subject of the attribution of the impacts of recent disasters to climate change. Our letter (PDF), which was prepared in response to a December 2004 paper by Epstein and McCarthy (EM), concluded, “Future research may yet reveal a connection between climate change and trends in disaster costs, but at present it is premature to attribute trends in disaster costs to anything other than characteristics of and changes in societal vulnerability.”

EM prepared a reply to our letter (PDF) which also appears in the October BAMS. Here I offer a point-by-point rejoinder to their reply.

1. Let’s start on where we agree. EM conclude, “The task is to harmonize adaptation with mitigation and do it in such a way as to stimulate the global economy.”

Response: Sounds good to me.

2. EM restate their original argument as, “We wrote that both increasing coastal populations and real estate prices have increased exposure to weather-related disasters and that the number of extreme weather events has risen worldwide… We do not attempt to quantify the relative importance of these factors in the well-documented increase in insured and uninsured losses from weather-related disasters. We believe our statement is balanced and true to the current literature.”

Response: Where is the evidence that the number of extreme weather events has risen worldwide? The IPCC disagrees (with only one exception). Further, there is a literature that has sought to tease out a climate signal in the disaster record, which is simply ignored by EM. Their statement is in fact contrary to the current literature, including that in the most recent IPCC. Saying otherwise doesn’t make it so.


3. EM assert that the IPCC has identified (with various levels of confidence) trends in extreme related to global precipitation and temperature, which is true. In the case of temperature there is no evidence that such increases, e.g., in diurnal temperature ranges, have any relationship to disaster costs. And we have discussed precipitation and floods here in some detail (e.g., see this post). The trends that EM point to in the IPCC are simply off point, and a distraction to this discussion.

4. EM engage in some misdirection when they state, “The World Meteorological Organization (2004) made explicit the connection between an energized climate system and more extreme weather.”

First, they cite the wrong reference here, pointing in their references to the 2003 WMO report instead of the 2004 report. Second, and more importantly, the 2004 report (here in PDF) actually has conclusions contrary to those suggested by EM.

“According to the third IPCC Assessment Report the duration, location and frequency of extreme weather and climate events are likely to change, and would result in mostly adverse impacts on biophysical systems. The IPCC also notes that for certain extreme phenomena there is currently insufficient information to assess recent trends, and climate models currently lack the spatial detail required to make confident projections. Therefore the linkages between climate variability and climate change and patterns of natural hazards remain a research topic that needs to be further investigated by the scientific community.”

I continue to be amazed to see in this area scholarly citations misused to support otherwise unsupportable assertions.

5. EM then get out on some very thin ice when they cite Mills (2005). We discussed Mills (2005) at length, so no need to revisit that critique. However, this is a good example of how a poor analysis is used to carry weight that it cannot support.

6. EM raise the issue of “the costs of biological sequelae of weather extremes.” These costs have not be explored in detail in the literature and I agree with EM that more attention should be paid to them

7. EM state, “We attempt no rank ordering of social vulnerabilities versus climate variability and severity because we think it premature.” Premature? Numerous scholars have been actively studying this issue, (I’ve been involved for close to 10 years), and a robust, peer-reviewed literature has resulted. Clearly, more work should be done in this area, and given its importance, it is hardly premature. It may be that “premature” in this case is just a synonym for “inconvenient.”

Bottom line: There is nothing in the EM response to alter our conclusion that “Future research may yet reveal a connection between climate change and trends in disaster costs, but at present it is premature to attribute trends in disaster costs to anything other than characteristics of and changes in societal vulnerability.”

4 Responses to “Exchange in BAMS on Climate Impacts Attribution, Part 2”

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  1. Mark Bahner Says:

    Hi Roger,

    You ask, “Where is the evidence that the number of extreme weather events has risen worldwide?”

    Doesn’t the Webster et al. paper in Science provide evidence that the number of exteme weather events, in the form of Category 4 and Category 5 hurricanes, have risen worldwide?

    Best wishes,
    Mark

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  3. Roger Pielke Jr. Says:

    Mark-

    Several answers.

    1. If the focus is cat 4/5 storms worldwide since 1970, then yes, Webster et al. show an increase.

    2. If the focus is >cat 1 storms, then the answer is no.

    3. The exchange with EM predated the publication of Webster et al., of course, so it is not referred to there.

    4. On the relationship of trends in hurricane intensities and trends in damages, stay tuned! But by way of a preview, I remain 100% comfortable with the statements in our BAMS letter.

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  5. Mark Bahner Says:

    Hi Roger,

    “1. If the focus is cat 4/5 storms worldwide since 1970, then yes, Webster et al. show an increase.

    2. If the focus is >cat 1 storms, then the answer is no.”

    Heh, heh, heh! Touche’! Well struck, sir! :-)

    “3. The exchange with EM predated the publication of Webster et al., of course, so it is not referred to there.”

    Oh?! Well, that is bizarre, then. “Where is the evidence,” indeed.

    “4. On the relationship of trends in hurricane intensities and trends in damages, stay tuned! But by way of a preview, I remain 100% comfortable with the statements in our BAMS letter.”

    Well, I’ll be interested to read it. I gotta admit, with Webster et al. on all basins, and Emmanuel in the Atlantic basin, and the fact that SST has risen, and the fact that the earth is getting warmer, and the fact that that’s probably at least partially due to human emissions (and possibly land use changes)…it all seems to line up.

    P.S. But I’m tilting at the windmill of trying to point out to at least *someone,* that the ridiculously high “projections”–completely devoid of probabilities, so they can’t be falsified–is the real problem to be dealt with.
    :-) ….or :-(

    P.P.S. Plus, there’s the fact that economic growth in the 21st century is going to be so spectacular that people(/cyborgs) in 2100 will laugh at our concerns about climate change:

    http://www.climateaudit.org/?p=399#comment-7950

    …But don’t get me started! ;-)

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  7. Dano Says:

    Plus, there’s **the fact** that economic growth in the 21st century is going to be so spectacular that people(/cyborgs) in 2100 will laugh at our concerns about climate change: [emphasis added]

    Check hit out! Mark done know the fyoocher!

    Since you obviously know the future, Mark, would you mind sharing with me (only me, no one else), the winning PowerBall numbers for next drawing? I’d appreciate it, thanks.

    Ah, well. I see you’re still in certitude mode. Good to see things don’t change much.

    Best,

    D